[Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Wed Jun 6 11:47:13 UTC 2018


Yeah, saw that exchange before but missed the last ugly part. Mexican
standoff? Deadlock? Hm, let's call it an impasse.

I'll think about it.

2018-06-06 13:02 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:

> Just look at the issues related to landcover for carto-css on github,
> e.g. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548
>
> * not rendered elsewhere
> * not enough instances
> * what's the difference with landuse
>
> are some of the arguments I've seen.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This issue has a long history... seems to me tagging awaits rendering,
> and
> > rendering awaits tagging. In such cases, you need a commitment from both
> > sides, with enough support to fuel trust. Then things can get rolling.
> >
> > I am pretty sure about the tagging side - the problem is recognized,
> there
> > are ideas, and I think a solution can be found whether over left or over
> > right. I am not sure about the rendering side. There's no use in tagging
> a
> > lot then throw it at the renderers and hearing: nice try, can't be done,
> or:
> > fine, we'll see if someone picks it up next century. Ok, exaggerated, but
> > wouldn't it be better to engage earlier and get a commitment and lay out
> a
> > road map?
> >
> > 2018-06-06 11:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> sent from a phone
> >>
> >> On 5. Jun 2018, at 10:02, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> E.g. replace landuse=village_green with landuse=decorative (defaut
> >> rendering=greenish) then add landcover=scrub|trees|bushes|sand|gravel
> as
> >> needed.
> >>
> >>
> >> “decorative” is not a good name, if the intention is mapping only
> >> greenery. I would add a component or use a wording which makes it more
> >> specific, e.g. “greenery” or “verdure” or maybe “decorative_planting”?
> >>
> >> If this was intended for all kind of decorative installations, maybe
> >> landuse=street_decoration? Although I would see these generally as
> elements
> >> (e.g. amenity or man_made) within a landuse like “highway”.
> >>
> >> If rendering of these landcover values could be foreseen in the near
> >> future, retagging can be expected and a lot of fake orchards,
> mini-forests
> >> and fak village_greens would disappear from Nederland.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you want to see the landcover tag rendered, one of the most important
> >> things to do is use it wherever it can apply.
> >>
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Martin
> >>
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