[Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

Dave Swarthout daveswarthout at gmail.com
Mon May 7 16:57:54 UTC 2018


yopaseopor wrote: I suggest to reclassify the other roads in their grades
to make unclassified roads unclassified as the name says it.

+1

I agree with your view but this topic is full of issues. In Thailand, for
example, we use "unclassified" for any highway that a) has no ref, and b),
is neither a service road, track, or residential way. It is essentially a
catchall for roads that do not fall into any other category. Again, using
Thailand as an example, there are many small, paved roads that have few or
no homes on them, sort of like a service road. I think some new category
might be warranted. However, proposing such a change and then obtaining
consensus is bound to be a difficult process.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:47 PM, yo paseopor <yopaseopor at gmail.com> wrote:

> The topic is the classification of OSM is not the same as countries have,
> and this make troubles. An UNCLASSIFIED road as its name says it is
> unclassified...but when you need some road classification with a step more
> than tertiary then you use unclassified, and if the road has ref...you put
> in then. Why don't you reorder the tertiary roads? They also catch your
> less thant tertiary roads in your country. Also it is the same problem with
> trunk or primary: whatis the difference between trunk of one lane per
> direction and a primary road? Also you have the issue if you consider the
> administrative classification as we do some countries: a trunk may be a
> trunk because being managed by one specific administration? WTF? Is it good
> for the map? All the roads by a local administration should be
> unclassified? It is a complicated problem. I suggest to reclassify the
> other roads in their grades to make unclassified roads unclassified as the
> name says it.
>
> Salut i carreteres sense classificar (Health and unclassified roads)
> yopaseopor
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/18 10:35 AM, Rory McCann wrote:
>> > On 06/05/18 09:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>> >> I am pretty sure that it is entirely possible to have
>> >> highway=unclassified
>> >> with officially assigned and posted ref number, but I wanted to check
>> >> whatever my edit on
>> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
>> >> was correct.
>> >
>> > Yes it is! AFAIR the "highway=unclassified" comes from British usage,
>> > where "unclassified" was a road classification. Yes it sound silly. I
>> > think the refs in the UK aren't signposted, but roads with the
>> > unclassified classification (!) have "U" refs (e.g. "U123", instead of
>> > "A123" etc).
>> by convention if a ref is unposted, many folks use unsigned_ref instead
>> of ref
>> for example, pretty much all the rural paved roads in North Carolina
>> have state
>> assigned refs, but the ordinary town roads are unposted.
>>
>> i can imagine a jurisdiction which uses signed refs on generic
>> "unclassified" roads,
>> but i've never seen one. i would be reluctant to explicitly rule out the
>> possibility.
>>
>> richard
>>
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