[Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

Vao Matua vaomatua at gmail.com
Mon May 7 17:06:40 UTC 2018


There are many places where people live in Africa that could be tagged as
Rural_Residential if that tag existed.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>
wrote:

> yopaseopor wrote: I suggest to reclassify the other roads in their grades
> to make unclassified roads unclassified as the name says it.
>
> +1
>
> I agree with your view but this topic is full of issues. In Thailand, for
> example, we use "unclassified" for any highway that a) has no ref, and b),
> is neither a service road, track, or residential way. It is essentially a
> catchall for roads that do not fall into any other category. Again, using
> Thailand as an example, there are many small, paved roads that have few or
> no homes on them, sort of like a service road. I think some new category
> might be warranted. However, proposing such a change and then obtaining
> consensus is bound to be a difficult process.
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:47 PM, yo paseopor <yopaseopor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The topic is the classification of OSM is not the same as countries have,
>> and this make troubles. An UNCLASSIFIED road as its name says it is
>> unclassified...but when you need some road classification with a step more
>> than tertiary then you use unclassified, and if the road has ref...you put
>> in then. Why don't you reorder the tertiary roads? They also catch your
>> less thant tertiary roads in your country. Also it is the same problem with
>> trunk or primary: whatis the difference between trunk of one lane per
>> direction and a primary road? Also you have the issue if you consider the
>> administrative classification as we do some countries: a trunk may be a
>> trunk because being managed by one specific administration? WTF? Is it good
>> for the map? All the roads by a local administration should be
>> unclassified? It is a complicated problem. I suggest to reclassify the
>> other roads in their grades to make unclassified roads unclassified as the
>> name says it.
>>
>> Salut i carreteres sense classificar (Health and unclassified roads)
>> yopaseopor
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/7/18 10:35 AM, Rory McCann wrote:
>>> > On 06/05/18 09:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>>> >> I am pretty sure that it is entirely possible to have
>>> >> highway=unclassified
>>> >> with officially assigned and posted ref number, but I wanted to check
>>> >> whatever my edit on
>>> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
>>> >> was correct.
>>> >
>>> > Yes it is! AFAIR the "highway=unclassified" comes from British usage,
>>> > where "unclassified" was a road classification. Yes it sound silly. I
>>> > think the refs in the UK aren't signposted, but roads with the
>>> > unclassified classification (!) have "U" refs (e.g. "U123", instead of
>>> > "A123" etc).
>>> by convention if a ref is unposted, many folks use unsigned_ref instead
>>> of ref
>>> for example, pretty much all the rural paved roads in North Carolina
>>> have state
>>> assigned refs, but the ordinary town roads are unposted.
>>>
>>> i can imagine a jurisdiction which uses signed refs on generic
>>> "unclassified" roads,
>>> but i've never seen one. i would be reluctant to explicitly rule out the
>>> possibility.
>>>
>>> richard
>>>
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