[Tagging] Is it possible to have highway=unclassified with ref tag?

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Mon May 7 17:40:41 UTC 2018


That's basically the highway=unclassified tag.

On Mon, May 7, 2018, 12:07 Vao Matua <vaomatua at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are many places where people live in Africa that could be tagged as
> Rural_Residential if that tag existed.
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> yopaseopor wrote: I suggest to reclassify the other roads in their
>> grades to make unclassified roads unclassified as the name says it.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I agree with your view but this topic is full of issues. In Thailand, for
>> example, we use "unclassified" for any highway that a) has no ref, and b),
>> is neither a service road, track, or residential way. It is essentially a
>> catchall for roads that do not fall into any other category. Again, using
>> Thailand as an example, there are many small, paved roads that have few or
>> no homes on them, sort of like a service road. I think some new category
>> might be warranted. However, proposing such a change and then obtaining
>> consensus is bound to be a difficult process.
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:47 PM, yo paseopor <yopaseopor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The topic is the classification of OSM is not the same as countries
>>> have, and this make troubles. An UNCLASSIFIED road as its name says it is
>>> unclassified...but when you need some road classification with a step more
>>> than tertiary then you use unclassified, and if the road has ref...you put
>>> in then. Why don't you reorder the tertiary roads? They also catch your
>>> less thant tertiary roads in your country. Also it is the same problem with
>>> trunk or primary: whatis the difference between trunk of one lane per
>>> direction and a primary road? Also you have the issue if you consider the
>>> administrative classification as we do some countries: a trunk may be a
>>> trunk because being managed by one specific administration? WTF? Is it good
>>> for the map? All the roads by a local administration should be
>>> unclassified? It is a complicated problem. I suggest to reclassify the
>>> other roads in their grades to make unclassified roads unclassified as the
>>> name says it.
>>>
>>> Salut i carreteres sense classificar (Health and unclassified roads)
>>> yopaseopor
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/18 10:35 AM, Rory McCann wrote:
>>>> > On 06/05/18 09:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>>>> >> I am pretty sure that it is entirely possible to have
>>>> >> highway=unclassified
>>>> >> with officially assigned and posted ref number, but I wanted to check
>>>> >> whatever my edit on
>>>> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
>>>> >> was correct.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes it is! AFAIR the "highway=unclassified" comes from British usage,
>>>> > where "unclassified" was a road classification. Yes it sound silly. I
>>>> > think the refs in the UK aren't signposted, but roads with the
>>>> > unclassified classification (!) have "U" refs (e.g. "U123", instead of
>>>> > "A123" etc).
>>>> by convention if a ref is unposted, many folks use unsigned_ref instead
>>>> of ref
>>>> for example, pretty much all the rural paved roads in North Carolina
>>>> have state
>>>> assigned refs, but the ordinary town roads are unposted.
>>>>
>>>> i can imagine a jurisdiction which uses signed refs on generic
>>>> "unclassified" roads,
>>>> but i've never seen one. i would be reluctant to explicitly rule out the
>>>> possibility.
>>>>
>>>> richard
>>>>
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