[Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

djakk djakk djakk.djakk at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 15:04:22 UTC 2018


In order to reduce the length of the value of the departures= tag, should
we allow this kind of abstraction level : departures=5:35 ; 6:35 ;
[7-19]:[05;35] ; 20:35 ; 21:35  ?

Julien « djakk »


Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 15:41, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timetable, as they always use
> the service they may memorize the schedules ... ?
>
> Julien
>
>
> Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 à 17:08, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Leif,
>>
>> You made me do it! :-) I sort of stole your proposal and started creating
>> a new one. It differs in rather important ways from your proposal, so I
>> preferred not modifying your wiki page. I also think it's important to
>> decouple the (voting for a) full timetable solution from the solution where
>> tags are added to indicate interval during 'opening_hours' or a route,
>> which is a lot more likely to be accepted.
>>
>> So here goes:
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables
>>
>> Please let me know what you think. What I still haven't figured out yet
>> is how to differ weekdays that fall in school holiday periods from "normal"
>> weekdays. So work in progress.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 16:25 schreef Leif Rasmussen <354lbr at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Polyglot:
>>>
>> I think that having a timetable relation for each stop is less
>>> complicated than having one per route.  There are several advantages to
>>> this:
>>> 1) People can easily add a single relation at a time, rather than having
>>> to do the entire line at one time.  This could make it much easier to, for
>>> example, have a StreetComplete quest asking "What are the arrival times of
>>> bus X at this bus stop?"  iD could also have a field at bus stops with
>>> "arrivals for each parent bus route" that would allow people to seamlessly
>>> create timetable relations.  It also makes more features possible in the
>>> future, such as additional tags to each timetable.
>>> 2) The system is easier for newbies to learn to use.
>>>
>>> The disadvantage is that there are now a ton of relations per bus /
>>> train / subway route.  Creating these could made easier by a new JOSM
>>> plugin.  Also, if someone wanted to delete all timetable relations that are
>>> part of a route, they could simply use this overpass query to download the
>>> data into JOSM and then delete all of the timetable relations:
>>> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Dlf
>>>
>>> If people really prefer a single timetable relation for each route, then
>>> I will go with that.
>>>
>>> Julien:
>>> Why not have a "delay"="<amount of time between arrival and departure at
>>> this platform>" tag instead of separate arrivals/departures tags?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Leif Rasmussen
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