[Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

djakk djakk djakk.djakk at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 15:07:24 UTC 2018


I’ll agree with Leif, having a timetable relation per stop is better.


Yes Leif, there can be a delay expressed in minutes instead of an
arrival-departure pair of time.

Julien « djakk »



Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:04, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :

> In order to reduce the length of the value of the departures= tag, should
> we allow this kind of abstraction level : departures=5:35 ; 6:35 ;
> [7-19]:[05;35] ; 20:35 ; 21:35  ?
>
> Julien « djakk »
>
>
> Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 15:41, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timetable, as they always use
>> the service they may memorize the schedules ... ?
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 à 17:08, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Leif,
>>>
>>> You made me do it! :-) I sort of stole your proposal and started
>>> creating a new one. It differs in rather important ways from your proposal,
>>> so I preferred not modifying your wiki page. I also think it's important to
>>> decouple the (voting for a) full timetable solution from the solution where
>>> tags are added to indicate interval during 'opening_hours' or a route,
>>> which is a lot more likely to be accepted.
>>>
>>> So here goes:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think. What I still haven't figured out yet
>>> is how to differ weekdays that fall in school holiday periods from "normal"
>>> weekdays. So work in progress.
>>>
>>> Polyglot
>>>
>>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 16:25 schreef Leif Rasmussen <354lbr at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Polyglot:
>>>>
>>> I think that having a timetable relation for each stop is less
>>>> complicated than having one per route.  There are several advantages to
>>>> this:
>>>> 1) People can easily add a single relation at a time, rather than
>>>> having to do the entire line at one time.  This could make it much easier
>>>> to, for example, have a StreetComplete quest asking "What are the arrival
>>>> times of bus X at this bus stop?"  iD could also have a field at bus stops
>>>> with "arrivals for each parent bus route" that would allow people to
>>>> seamlessly create timetable relations.  It also makes more features
>>>> possible in the future, such as additional tags to each timetable.
>>>> 2) The system is easier for newbies to learn to use.
>>>>
>>>> The disadvantage is that there are now a ton of relations per bus /
>>>> train / subway route.  Creating these could made easier by a new JOSM
>>>> plugin.  Also, if someone wanted to delete all timetable relations that are
>>>> part of a route, they could simply use this overpass query to download the
>>>> data into JOSM and then delete all of the timetable relations:
>>>> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Dlf
>>>>
>>>> If people really prefer a single timetable relation for each route,
>>>> then I will go with that.
>>>>
>>>> Julien:
>>>> Why not have a "delay"="<amount of time between arrival and departure
>>>> at this platform>" tag instead of separate arrivals/departures tags?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Leif Rasmussen
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