[Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

djakk djakk djakk.djakk at gmail.com
Tue Nov 6 15:27:13 UTC 2018


... and/or an abbreviation with the frequency : departures=5:15 - 1:25
every 1:30 ~ 3 minutes
(This is for Rennes’ subway line)

Julien « djakk »


Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:07, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :

> I’ll agree with Leif, having a timetable relation per stop is better.
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> Yes Leif, there can be a delay expressed in minutes instead of an
> arrival-departure pair of time.
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> Julien « djakk »
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> Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:04, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a écrit :
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>> In order to reduce the length of the value of the departures= tag, should
>> we allow this kind of abstraction level : departures=5:35 ; 6:35 ;
>> [7-19]:[05;35] ; 20:35 ; 21:35  ?
>>
>> Julien « djakk »
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>> Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 15:41, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
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>>> Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timetable, as they always
>>> use the service they may memorize the schedules ... ?
>>>
>>> Julien
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>>> Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 à 17:08, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Leif,
>>>>
>>>> You made me do it! :-) I sort of stole your proposal and started
>>>> creating a new one. It differs in rather important ways from your proposal,
>>>> so I preferred not modifying your wiki page. I also think it's important to
>>>> decouple the (voting for a) full timetable solution from the solution where
>>>> tags are added to indicate interval during 'opening_hours' or a route,
>>>> which is a lot more likely to be accepted.
>>>>
>>>> So here goes:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know what you think. What I still haven't figured out yet
>>>> is how to differ weekdays that fall in school holiday periods from "normal"
>>>> weekdays. So work in progress.
>>>>
>>>> Polyglot
>>>>
>>>> Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 16:25 schreef Leif Rasmussen <354lbr at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Polyglot:
>>>>>
>>>> I think that having a timetable relation for each stop is less
>>>>> complicated than having one per route.  There are several advantages to
>>>>> this:
>>>>> 1) People can easily add a single relation at a time, rather than
>>>>> having to do the entire line at one time.  This could make it much easier
>>>>> to, for example, have a StreetComplete quest asking "What are the arrival
>>>>> times of bus X at this bus stop?"  iD could also have a field at bus stops
>>>>> with "arrivals for each parent bus route" that would allow people to
>>>>> seamlessly create timetable relations.  It also makes more features
>>>>> possible in the future, such as additional tags to each timetable.
>>>>> 2) The system is easier for newbies to learn to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> The disadvantage is that there are now a ton of relations per bus /
>>>>> train / subway route.  Creating these could made easier by a new JOSM
>>>>> plugin.  Also, if someone wanted to delete all timetable relations that are
>>>>> part of a route, they could simply use this overpass query to download the
>>>>> data into JOSM and then delete all of the timetable relations:
>>>>> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Dlf
>>>>>
>>>>> If people really prefer a single timetable relation for each route,
>>>>> then I will go with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julien:
>>>>> Why not have a "delay"="<amount of time between arrival and departure
>>>>> at this platform>" tag instead of separate arrivals/departures tags?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Leif Rasmussen
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