[Tagging] My proposal for disputed country borders
rory at technomancy.org
Wed Nov 28 10:49:06 UTC 2018
(Some of this is on the wiki)
On 28/11/2018 06:39, Johnparis wrote:
> I don't think the notion of "according_to" is viable unless it is
> restricted to the two disputing parties. (Three-way disputes can be
> simplified into three two-way disputes.)
This is why I like according_to:XX=yes/no. It allows for many options,
not just 2.
> I'll also look at your proposed tag (boundary=claimed_administrative)
> vs. my proposed tag (boundary_claim=administrative). Not sure whether
> there's any significant difference in implementation, but would like
> your thoughts on that.
boundary=claimed_administrative say "this is a boundary and it's of this
> I plan to rethink my proposal along these lines. One problem I now see
> with my examples, for instance, is that it provides relations for SADR
> (de facto and claimed) and MA (de facto and claimed), but not MA as seen
> by SADR. So you can't draw a global map from these relations from the
> viewpoint of SADR and its supporters. (You can do one from the viewpoint
> of MA, because SADR doesn't exist in that world, but that's a special case.)
I suspect "Country X thinks country Y doesn't really exist" is very
common, surely it must happen when a region secedes. I suspect Turkish
Republic of North Cyprus doesn't exist as a country according to Cyprus
or Italy, or.... Taiwan isn't a separate country according to China.
Kosovo isn't a separate country according to Serbia. etc.
"according_to:XX=no" can be useful here.
> Finally, is there some reason you want to create a competing proposal? I
> don't have any knowledge of two competing proposals being discussed at
> the same time; would they be followed by two votes? I thought the idea
> was to reach consensus.
Yes this can appear a little snarky, that's not my intent. I half
heartely suggested this idea 2 years ago (
), but abandoned it.
As you know, recent events mean OSM should have an answer to this. We'll
talk and discuss and surely we can come to consensus.
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