[Tagging] Suggestion: ref:mobile_payment for amenity=parking

Sergio Manzi smz at smz.it
Wed Nov 28 20:14:46 UTC 2018

Sorry, but it should be:

    payment:sms:WhateverPayApp:contact=<phone number to send>
    payment:sms:WhateverPayApp:ref:payment=<code to send>

because, sooner or later, multiple payment options/clearingouse/apps could be supported and each should have its info.

The "ref:" could be go, IMHO...


Sergio Manzi

On 2018-11-28 21:07, bkil wrote:
> payment:sms=yes
> payment:WhateverPayApp=yes
> contact:sms=<phone number to send>
> ref:payment=<code to send>
> As an alternative, ref:sms=* would also work for me, though I think
> it's redundant if the code is the same for all payment options.
> ref:payment:sms=* sounds a bit excessive, but would be the most
> correct tagging. However, OSM strives for consistency and
> mapper-friendliness more than "correct" tagging in most cases, so I.
> I would definitely mark the exact payment variety, like
> * payment:sms=*,
> * payment:app=* or even better payment:WhateverPayApp=*,
> * payment:mastercard_contactless=*.
> I don't recommend using payment:pay_by_phone=* or
> payment:contactless=* due to the sheer number of incompatible
> different payment solutions (see wiki). It sounds worse to me than
> payment:debit_cards=* that many disapprove of, while I do use
> payment:debit_cards=* myself. I actually wanted to bring this up in a
> new topic recently:
>>> payment:contactless=*
> Contactless payment on Wikipedia and Contactless smart card on Wikipedia
> Used to indicate that a venue has 'contactless' (RFID/NFC-based) bank
> card readers. You may consider adding the precise variety of
> contactless smart card accepted: payment:expresspay=*,
> payment:mastercard_contactless=* (formerly payment:paypass=*),
> payment:visa_contactless=* (alternatively payment:paywave=*),
> payment:quickpass=*, payment:quicpay=* (overseas J/Speedy, commonly
> payment:QUICPay=*), payment:rupay_contactless=*, payment:zip=*,
> payment:mifare=*
> (wikipedia:en:MIFARE#Places_that_use_MIFARE_products),
> payment:felica=*(wikipedia:en:FeliCa#Card_usage), payment:wechat=*
> (wikipedia:en:WeChat#WeChat_Pay_payment_services), payment:alipay=*
> (wikipedia:en:Alipay#Comparison_with_other_payment_systems),
> payment:venmo=*. Not to be confused with contactless electronic
> variants of payment:meal_vouchers=* and payment:electronic_purses=*
> that are used in-house at many places. <<
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:29 AM Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 21 November 2018 12:45:30 GMT, Michael Brandtner <brandtner_michael at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>> Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> schrieb am 23:29 Dienstag,
>>> 20.November 2018:
>>>> I am not 100% sure that mobile payment is the correct term, that to
>>> me implies using your phone for contactless payment.
>>> But wouldn't that be payment:contactless?
>>>> The English term used in these cases is Pay by Phone.
>>> So your suggestion is payment:pay_by_phone and ref:pay_by_phone?
>> That is correct, pay by phone is the normal English usage.
>> Phil (trigpoint)
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