[Tagging] Suggestion: ref:mobile_payment for amenity=parking

Michael Brandtner brandtner_michael at yahoo.de
Thu Nov 29 13:13:27 UTC 2018

If I pay per SMS, then I don't pay per app. It doesn't make sense to have both in the same key. I do like bkil's suggestions but do think that the tags should be as specific as possible, even if that means to have multiple keys with the same value.
So for example:payment:sms=yespayment:AppName1=yespayment:AppName2y=yesref:sms=12345contact:sms=0127ref:AppName1=12345ref:AppName2=12345
This leads me to another interesting question: Should these be added to amenity=parking or to vending=parking_tickets? In my opinion it makes more sense to add them to the parking lot itself because I don't need the ticket machine if I use pay by phone. But the wiki only suggests payment=* keys for vending=parking_tickets, not for amenity=parking. 

    Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it> schrieb am 21:15 Mittwoch, 28.November 2018:

  Sorry, but it should be: 
 payment:sms:WhateverPayApp:contact=<phone number to send>
 payment:sms:WhateverPayApp:ref:payment=<code to send> 
 because, sooner or later, multiple payment options/clearingouse/apps could be supported and each should have its info. The "ref:" could be go, IMHO...
  Cheers, Sergio Manzi 
  On 2018-11-28 21:07, bkil wrote:
contact:sms=<phone number to send>
ref:payment=<code to send>

As an alternative, ref:sms=* would also work for me, though I think
it's redundant if the code is the same for all payment options.
ref:payment:sms=* sounds a bit excessive, but would be the most
correct tagging. However, OSM strives for consistency and
mapper-friendliness more than "correct" tagging in most cases, so I.

I would definitely mark the exact payment variety, like

* payment:sms=*,
* payment:app=* or even better payment:WhateverPayApp=*,
* payment:mastercard_contactless=*.

I don't recommend using payment:pay_by_phone=* or
payment:contactless=* due to the sheer number of incompatible
different payment solutions (see wiki). It sounds worse to me than
payment:debit_cards=* that many disapprove of, while I do use
payment:debit_cards=* myself. I actually wanted to bring this up in a
new topic recently:

 Contactless payment on Wikipedia and Contactless smart card on Wikipedia
Used to indicate that a venue has 'contactless' (RFID/NFC-based) bank
card readers. You may consider adding the precise variety of
contactless smart card accepted: payment:expresspay=*,
payment:mastercard_contactless=* (formerly payment:paypass=*),
payment:visa_contactless=* (alternatively payment:paywave=*),
payment:quickpass=*, payment:quicpay=* (overseas J/Speedy, commonly
payment:QUICPay=*), payment:rupay_contactless=*, payment:zip=*,
payment:felica=*(wikipedia:en:FeliCa#Card_usage), payment:wechat=*
(wikipedia:en:WeChat#WeChat_Pay_payment_services), payment:alipay=*
payment:venmo=*. Not to be confused with contactless electronic
variants of payment:meal_vouchers=* and payment:electronic_purses=*
that are used in-house at many places. <<

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:29 AM Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
On 21 November 2018 12:45:30 GMT, Michael Brandtner <brandtner_michael at yahoo.de> wrote:
 Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> schrieb am 23:29 Dienstag,
20.November 2018:

 I am not 100% sure that mobile payment is the correct term, that to
 me implies using your phone for contactless payment.
But wouldn't that be payment:contactless?

 The English term used in these cases is Pay by Phone.
 So your suggestion is payment:pay_by_phone and ref:pay_by_phone?
 That is correct, pay by phone is the normal English usage.

Phil (trigpoint)
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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