[Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Sergio Manzi smz at smz.it
Fri Nov 30 20:42:59 UTC 2018


Oh, and, BTW, by doing that the neighbourood will not suddenly disappear if they ever take down the gantry...  :-)


On 2018-11-30 21:21, Sergio Manzi wrote:
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> I understand what you mean (/and it reminds me of my first arrival in India, to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!/), but I still think place=neighbourood on the way identifing the gantry is wrong. Please let me explain why.
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> A neighbourood occupy an "area", so you should either define that area with a polygon, or, if you don't have the information/time to do that, you should put a node "close to that area".
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> I think that in your case you could define the gantry as I suggested (/or in a similar way/) and then add a node with place=neighbourood very close to the gantry. For routing you'll have the same (/positive/) effects.
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> It also seems that the wiki have the same idea: place=neighbourood should not be used on ways. Please check that on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aplace%3Dneighbourhood
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> Cheers!
>
> Sergio
>
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> On 2018-11-30 19:19, Tod Fitch wrote:
>> One of the listed values of the place tag is “neighbourhood”. And, in the one case where I mapped such a overhead sign, it was the entrance to a neighborhood. It was, in fact, the location you’d be taken to by the motor-rickshaw from the metro station when you gave your destination and was part of the address I was given to reach the residence in question.
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>> But that was in another country than I live in. In my own country, it is much more likely that a development would have a sign to the side of a main way in. Mostly there for advertising. Nobody, or at least almost nobody, would ever use it to give directions or use it as a destination itself.
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>> So I guess the use of a place=neighbourhood tag might be dependent on the local situation. Is this the landmark the locals use for giving directions? If so, then place=neighbourhood is more likely to be usable by a routing engine than usage=welcome_sign.
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>> Cheers!
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>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it <mailto:smz at smz.it>> wrote:
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>>> No, wait, I disagree with the "place=neighbourhood" thing!
>>>
>>> See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place
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>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> On 2018-11-30 18:10, Sergio Manzi wrote:
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>>>> Seems very good to me.
>>>>
>>>>   * already used: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gantry
>>>>   * proposal exist: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gantry
>>>>
>>>> In the proposal I don't like very much the way to indicate clearence, maxheight:physical=* (/what? opposed to...  maxheight:virtual=*, maybe?/), but that's another story...
>>>>
>>>> I think you found the right key, bravo!
>>>>
>>>> Sergio
>>>>
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>>>> On 2018-11-30 17:53, Tod Fitch wrote:
>>>>> I’ve mapped by placing a way across the road tagged with:
>>>>>
>>>>> man_made=gantry
>>>>> name=“whatever”
>>>>> place=neighbourhood
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose one could add some sort of tagging indicating the vertical clearance that might be of use for routing.
>>>>>
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