[Tagging] Greengrocer vs grocery vs shop=food?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Oct 8 22:50:41 UTC 2018


In the USA there are shops that sell custom fresh pizzas, but they are
uncooked. You take the prepared pizza home and cook it yourself. In the
western USA, the chain is named “Papa Murphy’s Take And Bake Pizza”

These have generally been tagged as restaurants or fastfood. In this case
takeaway=only would be a great tag.

I think it's reasonable to consider these in the category of "places that
sell prepared food" eg restaurant/fast_food, because you often need to
reheat take-away items.
I would not think of these places as equivalent to a grocery or greengrocer.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 7:27 AM Daniel Koć <daniel at koć.pl> wrote:

> W dniu 08.10.2018 o 23:00, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze:
>
> > +1 to a dedicated tag, e.g. deli=pierogi
> > Maybe you’d want to distinguish deli from ordinary pierogi though.
> > What about shop=food food=pierogi for the „usual“ pierogi shop?
>
> I have tagged similar shops. They sell typical Polish cuisine, so no
> deli at all (it might be a Polish shop in the USA). And there are not
> only dumplings (pierogi), but also other things like pancakes etc. So
> for me it's just shop=food + cuisine=local/polish.
>
> > I think it could eventually make sense to have a more generic shop=food
> tag for special food shops, which can then get the subtags that are needed
> for the local context. I just don’t think it should be used for generic
> food shops, as there is already a wide variety of tags in use that better
> describe the shop (convenience, supermarket, greengrocer, etc.). Maybe it
> should get a different name, because „food“ will be interpreted in all
> kinds of ways, including cooked meals.
>
> I'm all for having generic tags, because you don't always know the
> details, so blind tagging might be damaging data. I think the wiki
> definition should go like:
>
> shop=food is for a shop selling food other than any of more specific type:
> - shop=convenience - ...
> - shop=greengrocer - only vegetables and fruits
> - ...
>
> This way we could have both general tag and specific tags properly
> presented to the mappers.
>
> I'm not familiar with English types of shops, I have to check what
> grocery or convenience is to be sure. Simple term like shop=food is like
> building=yes (I'm sure it's a building, but I don't know exact type). It
> would be also good to have amenity=food (~100 uses now) when I'm not
> sure what kind of eating place it is (just passing by and collecting
> POIs), to not force people to guessing tags, which looks solid, but is
> spoiling database.
>
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