[Tagging] Game and toy library

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Wed Oct 10 17:11:07 UTC 2018


Yes,  that is the process that you should follow.  Please keep in mind the
it is easier to introduce a new tag than to redefine one. Requiring that
all current amenity=library have to be updated with a subtags library= book
will likely get some comments.

When I read the Wikipedia text on the osm wiki,  it seems that you can
consider a car rental place as a library. This does not match the
definition of the Dutch word bibliotheek which restricts it to books and .
They can be in electronic form though.  I guess all languages the use a
word derived from the same Greek origin will have the same meaning.

It would be very unnatural in those languages to say that something is a
bibliotheek,  but you will only find toys and games.

Regards

m

Op wo 10 okt. 2018 18:36 schreef ChameleonScales <
chameleonscales at protonmail.com>:

> Just found out about the proposal process:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Should I create a
> wiki page and follow the steps there?
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:24 PM, ChameleonScales <
> chameleonscales at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > --- You only send this to me (probably by accident). ---
> >
> > Indeed, fixed.
> >
> > > we do not want data consumers that does not understand the
> library-subkey to treat a toys_and_games as a book-library.
> >
> > That's partly why I proposed to rewrite the definition of the library
> tag and make it correspond more to the wikipedia definition, as it would
> allow to differentiate all sorts of libraries (e.g. library=books) but if
> you think there's no benefit in doing that in comparison to having full
> single values like toys_and_games_library, then I won't oppose.
> >
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:43 PM, Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > --- You only send this to me (probably by accident). ---
> > > AFAIK, we do not use a colon in the values. If you want to indicate a
> > > subcategory, it goes in a subkey.
> > > so amenity=library;library=toys_and_games
> > > But in this case we do not want data consumers that does not
> > > understand the library-subkey to treat a toys_and_games as a
> > > book-library.
> > > hence the idea to place it in the main key, as
> amenity=toys_and_games_library
> > > m.
> > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:37 PM ChameleonScales
> > > chameleonscales at protonmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm not sure why "amenity=library:toys_and_games" is not a good idea
> but being new to this I'll leave that to more experienced contributors.
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:29 PM, Marc Gemis
> marc.gemis at gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > 2: Having been a toy & game librarian, I can say that these
> establishments are already suffering the misconception that they are only
> there for children, so reducing their name to "toy libraries" would hardly
> make it better. If we used french language there would be nothing to argue
> about but since the "smart language" people decided that game mostly means
> video-game in the 21st century, I have no better idea than using
> "toys_and_games" to keep it clear enough. Do you see it differently?
> > > > >
> > > > > with "toys_and_games" I think the place can easily be mistaken for
> a
> > > > > shop that sells toys and games. A key differentiator is the lending
> > > > > part, not ?
> > > > > It's my feeling that amenity=toys_and_games_library is more
> > > > > understandable for people not familiar with the concept. Hopefully
> > > > > this will also prevent incorrect translations.
> > > > > m.
> >
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