[Tagging] historic=memorial tagging question

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Thu Oct 18 14:37:15 UTC 2018

"*A stele (/ˈstiːli/
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English> STEE-lee
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key>)[Note 1]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stele#cite_note-1> is a stone or wooden
slab, generally taller than it is wide, erected in the ancient world
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_world> as a monument
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument>. Grave
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave> stelae were often used for funerary
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral> or commemorative purposes. Stelae
as slabs of stone would also be used as ancient Greek
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece> and Roman
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome> government notices or
as boundary markers <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_marker> to
mark borders <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border> or property lines

*The surface of the stele usually has text, ornamentation, or both. The
ornamentation may be inscribed, carved in relief
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief>, or painted.*

*Steles are occasionally erected as memorials to battles. For example,
along with other memorials, there are more than half-a-dozen steles erected
on the battlefield of Waterloo
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Waterloo_Battlefield_locations> at
the locations of notable actions by participants in battle.**[1]*

Free standing slabs of stone with inscription, commemorative, for different
purposes. I think it applies perfectly. The stele in the OSM-wiki is a
modern variant in wood I think. I have no problem with that.

Op do 18 okt. 2018 om 15:09 schreef Janko Mihelić <janjko at gmail.com>:

> Memorial=* tag is a bit broken at the moment. Its values can be both, what
> the memorial looks like, and what it commemorates. So the most common value
> is war_memorial, and that says what it commemorates. Almost all other
> values say what it looks like, so IMHO, we should stick with the "what it
> looks like" usage of the tag. Memorial=marker says more about what it
> commemorates, and very vaguely, so I wouldn't use this one. I read the
> stele wikipage[1] and that doesn't look right. So in my opinion, we should
> invent a new value that references freestanding stone plaques. So I have a
> few suggestions:
> memorial=freestanding_plaque
> memorial=freestanding_stone
> memorial=stone_plaque
> memorial=freestanding_stone_plaque
> or something like that..
> Janko Mihelić
> [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stele
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 05:49 John Willis <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, but marker only has seven uses - stele has about 5000.
>> Also- Marker, to me, would be something you would find in the ground with
>> a number or a pole with a number on it, or something based around a ref
>> number or value of some sort (like a mile marker).
>> In the US, a "historical landmark" or "marker" is usually a plaque
>> embedded in a pedestal or stone, so it is memorial=plaque, with about
>> 10,000 uses.
>> ^___^
>> Javbw
>> > On Oct 18, 2018, at 4:21 AM, EthnicFood IsGreat <
>> ethnicfoodisgreat at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > memorial=marker
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Vr gr Peter Elderson
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