[Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Sep 2 11:41:29 UTC 2018

You are inverting how route_master relations are used in public transport.
There the route master represents a line, and our route relations represent
the itineraries (all the variations).


Op zo 2 sep. 2018 om 13:35 schreef Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com>:

> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:
>> There are routes out there that can be used by bicycle and on foot. Up tp
>> now I have classified them as one or the or the other, tagging according to
>> the prevalent use. This is unsatisfactory and, strictly speaking, not
>> corresponding to the principle of on-the-ground-truth.
> [...]
>> The formally correct solution is "route=hiking;bicycle", and
>> network=lwn;lcn ecc
>> but this tagging is discouraged [1] and is flagged as error by JOSM, and
>> I suspect that it also not supported by data users, as it is not documented
>> anywhere.
> The semi-colon is semi-deprecated, nevertheless it is the standard method
> of indicating that a tag has multiple
> values even if a particular tag does not explicitly say it can be used.
> I wouldn't worry about validators flagging it as an error.  By the nature
> of things they always lag behind new
> tagging.  JOSM flagging it as an error is only a serious problem if it
> refuses to let you save it.
> As for data consumers, maybe this would work (I haven't thought through
> all the ramifications).  Create a route
> with route=hiking;bicycle.  Then create two route masters, one with
> route_master=hiking and the other with
> route_master=bicycle; each route master includes the common
> route=hiking;bicycle.  This might solve some
> problems.  It will also likely cause different problems.
> The alternative, of course, is to use JOSM to clone the route, set one
> copy to route=hiking and the other copy to
> route=bicycle.  But that will be a pain in the bum to maintain the route
> changes.
> --
> Paul
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