[Tagging] Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Sat Aug 17 13:46:13 UTC 2019

If there's just information on paper or web, I wouldn't map it. If there is
just an information board with a map, I would map that as
I only map if there is actually something on the ground that shows where
the route is. How accurate and adequate that is, is another matter.

Vr gr Peter Elderson

Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 15:36 schreef Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com>:

> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 14:05, s8evq <s8evq at runbox.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:00:32 +0100, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does it have to be signposted as a walking route?
>> In my opinion yes. It's an objective fact, visible on the ground, and can
>> be verified.
>> Let's put it otherwise: "Besides signs and trail markers, what other
>> facts or properties of the route would you consider sufficient in order to
>> map the route"?
>> A map with copyright permitting OSM to make use of its data.  There are
> several walks near
> me which appear on maps published by the county council or tourist board.
> Copyright does
> not permit me to make use of those maps.  However, some of those walks
> will be
> sign-posted/waymarked, so they could be mapped (but not by me, I'm nowhere
> near fit
> enough).
> One example: My running club has also a group of people who go on a walk
>> together, every Wednesday. They have been doing the same 5km route for the
>> last 7 or 8 years. Should that be mapped? It's not indicated, not written
>> down, just common knowledge among club members. My feeling tells me
>> something like that shouldn't be in OSM.
> If it's not indicated or written down, then no.  But what about Cilgerran
> Walkers Are Welcome?
> They were awarded "Walkers are Welcome" status in 2008.  Their walks
> appeared in a (now
> out-of-print) book.  Three of their walks are described on their web site:
> http://walkingcilgerran.btck.co.uk/Walksinthearea
> They also have a map of their walks on a noticeboard in their village.
> With their permission,
> I put one of those routes into OSM so they could decide whether or not to
> give permission to
> add the rest.  Their group seems to have as many divided opinions as we do
> here, as I've heard
> nothing more in about a year.
> These aren't long walks for serious walkers.  Nothing like the E2 in
> Yorkshire, or the Wales
> Coastal Path.  But this area relies heavily on the tourist trade and these
> are the sorts
> of walks tourists would appreciate.
> Another example: there are lot's of walks in small nature reserves in my
>> region. They are published online, as a PDF containing a small map of the
>> nature reserve. The routes are also indicated on an information board with
>> a map. (for example
>> https://www.westtoer.be/sites/westtoer_2015/files/styles/route_main_image_desktop/public/win_synced_photos/natuurpunt_wandelingen_damme-52909-0.jpg
>> )
>> Would you map this? ...And then there's also copyright restrictions to
>> consider.
> I would map public footpaths, if I found information about them where the
> copyright permits.
> A collection of footpaths that somebody has defined as a walk is another
> matter, because
> copyright issues are more likely to arise.  If the copyright permitted it,
> would you deem
> any of these
> https://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/resident/coast-countryside/exploring-ceredigion/walks-and-rides/
> suitable or unsuitable?  Many of them appear on maps on noticeboards.  I'd
> expect many to
> be signposted and waymarked, but am too unhealthy to look.  Would they
> only be mappable
> if signposted/waymarked or would a map without copyright problems be
> enough?
> --
> Paul
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