[Tagging] Co-ordinate sets vs. background informations = ODbL vs. CC

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Feb 11 22:19:48 UTC 2019


On 11/02/19 23:46, Ulrich Lamm wrote:
> Am 08.02.2019 um 20:37 schrieb Ulrich Lamm:
>
>> OSM is already used like a quallity product.
>> We have to provide that quality, now, or we have to warn people that 
>> they should not use OSM until ten years later.
>>
>> If / As official databases provide their contents under Creative 
>> Commons licenses to enable free use for everybody,
>> it is a lie to say, OSM cannot use them.
>>
>> I have tried to show the way to prevent OSM from isolation by its own 
>> fault:
>> We have to distinguish between those contents (geometries), on which 
>> we cannot meet Creative Commons conditions,
>> and those contents (definitions, names, results of scientific 
>> investigations) on which we can meet Creative Commons conditions, easliy.
>
> Let us face the background interests.
>
> The problem of using official reference informations  that are 
> available for free use
> is not a problem between official databases and the community of 
> volunteer mappers,
> working for free on a collection of geographic informations that can 
> be used for free.
>
> It is a problem between the free community with its free product
> and some people who exploit this free collection (and the unpaid work 
> of thousands of volunteers) for commercial use.
> Some people that hold powerful positions in the community live from 
> selling applications of our volunteer work.
> Certainly, some of these commercial applications are a surplus value 
> in relation to the free applications.
> But that is not our problem. Our intention is to get reliable free 
> information as a revenue for free work.
>
> If the most reliable informations are references that are excluded 
> from commercial exploitation,
> unless the exploiter has an individual license contract with the 
> provider of the reference data,
> the commercial exploiter has the choice either to sell a product 
> without informations that are available for free,
> or he has to pay.
>

Your method of including CC will mean not more use by commercial firms.

Here is a though for you.
Take OSM and combine with CC sources and then provide that as FSM (Free 
Street Map).
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