[Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 13:39:08 UTC 2019

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 10:51, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/07/19 19:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> Public toilet: amenity=toilets
> Private toilet: not tagged (so not tagged
> like a public one)
> I am unable to link to well tagged private
> toilets as in this case private tagging
> is to not map it.
> A similar logic would have private roads not mapped. Yet they are.
> Same for private buildings, farm yards, woods, beaches and so on.

I am happy with leisure=garden + access=private for private gardens.  An
argument elsewhere
in the thread refers to the small size of some private gardens but I'd
class that under "too small
to bother mapping" not "must not map because it's private."

Even so, I do not find that equating roads, gardens and toilets
compelling.  Not as stated so far.
We map private roads and gardens because they are visible in aerial imagery
and/or street
level imagery.  We don't do so because the general public can necessarily
access them but
because they may be navigational landmarks.  Also, delivery drivers may
make use of private
roads in order to deliver to the destination served by that road.  We do
not map private
toilets because not only are they not accessible to the public but also
because they are
not navigational landmarks.

Let's not go down the route of saying that because we map private X we can
also map
private Y.  It's about more than just public/private.  It's also about

That said, I don't have any objection to a mapper adding his/her own
private toilet just for
fun.  Not very useful to anyone, but I don't feel a need to invoke the
mapping police on
anyone that does it.  Mapping somebody else's private toilet without
permission is another
matter.  But it might be sensible if carto rendered private toilets VERY
faintly. :)

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