[Tagging] Was public_transport=platform intended to always be combined with highway=bus_stop?

[Jo]

bus_bay = right | left | both (  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/485293336
  )

For me the object that represents the bus stop, is always a simple node. I
don't see a problem for doing that in bus stations as well.

If there are actual platforms, whether in a bus station or somewhere along
a way, it can be tagged:

highway=platform (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/304753571)

or

or railway=platform (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/255344359)

for trams.

on a way.

These ways don't get the ref, name, route_ref, zone, local_ref, operator,
network, and so on, those go on the node that represents the bus stop. Only
that node needs to be added to the route relations. It doesn't get any
simpler than that.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/576656712  (example of a bus stop served
by 3 different operators near Brussels, I only put
public_transport=platform, bus=yes because for a few years that seemed like
the right thing to do. Today I wouldn't mind removing those 2 tags once
again.)

Those platform ways could get:

tactile_paving=yes
wheelchair=yes
height=

So there is no real conflict between highway=bus_stop or railway=tram_stop
on a node

and

highway=platform or railway=platform on a way or an area.

Polyglot

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:13 PM Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 12:52, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, there are enough tags for public transport already. I don't
>> think anything new is needed.
>>
>
> There's something I haven't found a way of mapping.  That's a bus stop
> where there's a bay
> inlet into the pavement (aka sidewalk, aka causeway).  If it served a
> different purpose and
> had different road markings, it could be a lay-by (aka rest area) or a
> parking bay.  But it's a
> bus stop where the bus does not obstruct the flow of traffic.  There are
> four of those in
> my town, that I can think of (there may be others I've missed).
>
> Yes, I could use area:highway or add area=yes to a closed way, but those
> don't seem to render
> on a popular, well-known carto intended for mappers to check their work
> for anything but
> pedestrian ways.
>
> Is there a way of doing it that I've missed?  If not, could we have one?
>
> Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/52.08760/-4.65318
>
> --
> Paul
>
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