[Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges"

[Peter Neale]

Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:42:24 -0500
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On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 6:24 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
wrote:

>> I personally would not tag a >20 foot wide manufactured home as a static
>> caravan

Agreed
> I'm just amused that staying in a trailer park is considered a high end
> tourism/glamping experience in the UK instead of a cheap form of permanent
> housing.  Granted, my exposure to this phenomenon is limited to this thread
> and Damn Dog Games covering Furcation 2018 on YouTube.

We have to remember that they were characterised as "Luxury" by the people trying to sell them at £190,000!  I was not proposing to tag them with "quality=luxury" Ha Ha!
>> I thought that building=static_caravan was meant for (single-wide)
>> trailers / “mobile homes” without permanent foundations, since these could
>> still be moved without demolishing a foundation or breaking the building
>> into pieces.
> I would tend to agree.  Or like the situation I was in for a few years in
> the middle of this decade where it's *literally* a caravan that is
> permanently parked.  I've not exactly considered them permanent enough to
> warrant tagging (even though the specific one I lived in for a few years is
> still parked in the exact same spot it was when I lived there, and I
> legitimately question whether or not the landing gear is actually capable
> of retracting or the brakes releasing if they even wanted to move it at
> this point, since I believe it's sat on the same spot all but the first two
> years after it was built).  I consider "mobile home" and "manufactured
> home" to be synonymous.

>> If a manufactured home is placed on a permanent foundation, on land that is
>> owned rather than rented, then it is just a different way of building a
>> house, no?
> I would classify a mobile/manufactured home as a permanent building,
> whether or not the owner took the wheels off and built a foundation.
> Entire multistorey buildings are only slightly less likely to ever move
> again than mobile homes, and about as likely to survive transport (based on
> Mercy Hospital Joplin being picked up and moved around 3 meters by a
> tornado a few years ago, and seeing old mobile homes being moved; in both
> cases the only real next stop is a garbage dump).

Agreed.  
>> Similarly, a fancy modern house or apartment building might be built out of
>> prefab modules or modified shipping containers.
>
>> I’d say the defining difference is whether or not there is a permanent
>> foundation
> I think that's not a bad starting place, though I'd be willing to call any
> mobile home not rigged up for immediate tow to be a permanent structure.
> See also: Portable classrooms.  The leaky, 20 year old one I went to 6th
> grade in (along with it's sister unit that was planted immediately
> adjacent, scheduled to be removed "any year now" back in the 90s) is now
> about 45 years old, basically a black mold lawsuit waiting to happen and
> still in daily use back in Portland.

I would like to tag them as some form of leisure facility, because they are supposed to be used intermittently for weekends / holidays.  However, I also understand the idea of "tag what you see".
Out of interest, I looked up the planning permission granted for the site. It is for a number of "caravans", which can only be occupied for 11 months of the year.  Originally, this was 8 months, but it was later increased.  One "caravan" (for the site manager) can be occupied all year, but the owner is now applying for permission for 9 of them to be occupied all year (with no real justification - IMHO) 

It seems that the local community do not want a permanent development there, but the owner (selling them at £190,000 per plot, remember) wants to turn them from caravans into permanent bungalows. 
Anyway, I have now tagged the individual structures as "bungalow"s and the site as "Residential".
Thanks to all who have  taken the time to contribute and assist.
Peter
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