[Tagging] Changeset 62867521

Andrew Harvey andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 02:36:02 UTC 2019

I just added my thoughts to the changeset comment. I agree that name should
be the proper name only and all other information can go in other tags or
the description field.

Generally an "official" (I use the term loosely) trail will be signposted
and potentially part of a hiking route, and an "informal" route won't be
signposted an not part of a hiking route, is that your view too? In that
case for the "official" one I'd use foot=designated and make it part of the
route=hiking relation, and foot=yes for the informal one. This matches the
definitions of =yes and =designated at

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking_Maps lists a range of hiking
maps many do show more information than the default OSM rendered.

I agree it's best to use a barrier=* tag on the node instead of
disconnecting the ways, as that barrier might only block motor_vehicles,
not foot access, which the barrier can be tagged as such.

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:30, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> User dvdhns are having a friendly discussion regarding this changeset:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62867521#map=16/40.3021/-105.6436
> They have some good reasons for adding "(off trail)" to the end of the
> name to the "Fire Trail", but I don't think they override the rule that we
> should only use the name tag for the name [0].  Note that in any event, it
> is not really "off trail", it is a well defined trail, but is not an
> official trail according to the Park Service, thus in OSM tagging it is
> "informal" [1].  Perhaps some others in the community could weigh in on
> this issue.
> dvdhns also disconnected the Fire Trail from the nearby official trail,
> even though they are connected, albeit with a small barrier of rocks and
> logs (according to their comment, the last time I was at this location,
> there was no barrier).  I suggest mapping the barrier separately, and
> perhaps indicating that the first few meters of the fire trail are
> "trail_visibility=intermediate."
> Mike
> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal
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