[Tagging] Route names: [Was: Use of the name=* on features internal to named areas]

[Jmapb]

On 12/31/2020 2:02 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote:

> I'll concede that including the blaze colour on Oliverea-Mapledale
> Trail https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280416600
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280416600> is poor practice, and
> I'll fix it in a day or two once people have looked at it as an
> illustration of what Peter is complaining about. It's not part of the
> name.  In that case, however, Oliverea and Mapledale - the two
> endpoints - are indeed part of the proper name. That convention does
> give rise to some awkward names - 'Giant Ledge - Panther - Fox Hollow
> Trail' (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20198486
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20198486>) surely doesn't trip off
> the tongue, but that's what the signs and maps say.

That's certainly what the maps say, but I've found precious few trail
signs in the Catskills that actually mention the trails' names. The vast
majority that I've come across simply list destinations and distances
with an example of the colored disc used for blazing. Though indeed,
often the trail names and destinations are indistinguishable ...
"Oliverea - Mapledale" and "Giant Ledge - Panther Mountain - Fox Hollow"
are both just northbound itineraries repurposed as names, but at this
point they are the official names.

If there's a posted map, I'm happy enough to take trail names from that
and call them verifiable. And of course the DEC's online maps (in this
case https://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/lands_forests_pdf/recmapbiwa.pdf ) are
a good last resort. These always add the blaze color as part of the
printed name, and that style was carried over in a lot of the early
trail mapping on OSM.

Obviously I missed one, but I too have been trying to move the trail
colors out of the names and into the tags. The general state of trail
tagging in the Catskills is somewhere between inconsistent and abysmal,
and it would be great to arrive at a style guide for these.

Happy New Year!
Jason

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