[Tagging] POI data and Addresses on areas - Was: addresses on buildings

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Sat Jan 11 11:50:43 UTC 2020


Conclusion.
SWe need a more flexible solution.
An idea.
For normal simple cases (small building, one address, placed on the map
close and unambigously near the Street of the address), put the number on
the building or on a node on the building polygon.

For more complex cases (anything from the size of an airport down the a
small single-address building closer to a street that's not in it's
address) use an address relation that ties together the different types of
addresses (nodes on the map) mentioned in Jareks post).


On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 12:42, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, my mail program got impatient and sent off an incomplete message.
> Here is the continuation:
>
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 12:31, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to illustrate the problem, try find this address on OSM:
>> 13, Via Aeroporto, Orio al Serio, Italy
>> You get some ten results most of them with the correct address.
>> Then try to find "Bergamo Orio al Serio Airport" and check the address.
>> It's the one above.
>> Than try to route to the Airport, say with OSRM.
>> OSRM tries to route you somewhere in the middle of the airport area, but
>> luckily realizes that there is a fence, and stops there (by pure chance not
>> far away form the real entrance BTW
>>
>> Now coming to the analysis above.
>> Very precise and clear.
>> Every jurisdiction may have a different definition of what an address is.
>> In my specific case the Italian address definition, i.e. the entrance to
>> the building from the public road/footway network, or part of building with
>> that address, seems to be very precise, and is the one which the
>> authorities need to know when they want you (for whatever reason).
>>
>> Now let's go to Big G to find "Bergamo Orio al Serio Airport". They find
>> the same address and place the pointer in the middle of the grass near the
>> runways. Similar to OSM. They are better than OSRM when it comes to
>> routing. The Route stops in the short term car-park near the entrance and
>> shows yo how to reach on foot the passenger entrance.
>>
>> Not enough.
>> I checked the address of the aiport for their web site.
>> <https://www.milanbergamoairport.it/en/>
>> surprise, surprise, it's different:
>> Milan Bergamo Airport
>>
>
>
>> Via Orio al Serio 49/51
>> 24050 Grassobbio (BG) Italia
>>
> Gmaps finds this and puts the pointer to the same place on the grass in
> the airfield, put the routing goes to a different point, further away from
> the drop off parking.
> I could not test this address with OSM, because it was "not recognised".
>
> (my conclusion follows in a separate mail)
>
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