[Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Fri Mar 27 12:29:19 UTC 2020


The point is that the name in question isn't actually the name in de-CH,
it's the Swedish name.

The general norm all over the world is that most places -don't- have
names in languages that are not used locally. Pretending that they do
isn't a useful concept and yes they typically won't have
transliterations either.

Am 27.03.2020 um 13:21 schrieb Paul Allen:
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 11:47, pangoSE <pangose at riseup.net
> <mailto:pangose at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>     Does it matter what I as a swede think?
>
> Perhaps.  It depends how you answer my question below. :)
>
>     Names are (in my view) socially constructed and constantly agreed
>     upon by the users of the language. I don't speak Swiss High German
>     so I'm not really in a position to judge what to call this city in
>     that language. IMO OSM is not a suitable place for speakers of
>     Swiss High German
>
>  [...]
>  
> Does the dialect of Swedish you speak have different names for various
> well-known locations in the world that differ from the names used by
> people
> living there?  English does.  We use Germany for Deutschland.  We use Roma
> for Rome.  We use Switzerland for Helvetica.  Etc.  The French use Londres
> for London and Royaume Uni for the United Kingdom.
>
> If we English speakers are looking at a map of the world, we prefer to see
> our own names for places.  The media here don't report an earthquake
> in Roma
> but an earthquake in Rome.  They don't report a general strike in
> Deutschland
> but a general strike in Germany.  They don't report an avalanche in
> Helvetica
> but an avalanche in Switzerland.  So if we're interested in seeing on
> a map
> where those places are we'd like to see them in English, not names we're
> unfamiliar with.  I have no idea what Sverige is, but I've heard of
> Sweden.
>
> OTOH, if we're tourists we'd like the option to see both.  I want to go to
> Munich from Berlin but I can't find Munich on the map because it's
> showing the German name.  But if the map shows only English names
> (where available) I don't know what to look for on road signs.
>
> You might also want to consider different orthographies.  Even if you
> use the same word (phonetically) for Mecca that Saudi Arabians do,
> could you find the place on a map where it is labelled مَكَّةُ
>
> -
> Paul
>
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