[Tagging] [Talk-ml] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

[Andy Townsend]

On 03/05/2020 16:12, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
>
> So, this discussion gravitates towards using landuse=common for those 
> African urban freely accessible multipurpose open spaces, which I 
> fully support.
>
Just to be clear you've said "landuse=common" above but "leisure=common" 
below?


> Implementing this change requires the following actions:
>
> - Editing the leisure=common wiki page, in French and in English (I'll 
> do that)
>
> - Reinstating the rendering of leisure=common in downstream 
> cartographic styles, would be even better if the color matched the 
> surface=* so that sandy surfaces don't appear green.
>
Each cartographic style will have its own sorts of things that it wants 
to show, and I can fully understand some of them thinking that 
"leisure=common" isn't something that they want to show. You'll be able 
to submit pull requests to those that are in github, but there's no 
"automatic right of feature X to be shown".

With regard to the second bit, I'd be happy to accept a pull request at 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style that did that (it'd 
be about half a dozen lines of lua).  Setting up a map server based on 
that is pretty straightforward - it's set out in 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/Ubuntu_1804_tileserver_load 
which in turn is very similar to 
https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-18-04-lts/ 
.  Server costs would be significant on an average salary in Mali (a 
day's wages per month or so?) but much less so on an a European or North 
American one (perhaps a cup of coffee-shop coffee every few days).


> - Reinstating the rendering of leisure=common in JOSM's default style 
> (it recently changed to grey to mark deprecation). (I'll open a JOSM 
> ticket
>
> - Altering QA rules (JOSM Validator and Osmose) so that the 
> leisure=common deprecation only applies to the United Kingdom of Great 
> Britain, where commons have a legal definition and designation=common 
> must be used for them. (I'll open a JOSM ticket but if someone has 
> prior experience interacting with the Osmose people, that would be nice)
>
Actually, I'd suggest that "leisure=common" was perfectly valid in the 
UK too.  Back in 2017 it was misused as a tag in the UK but now it 
mostly isn't; I added it back in to the style that I maintain for 
UK/Ireland this year.  Obviously "designation", if known, makes sense too.

Best Regards,

Andy