[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Pumping proposal

François Lacombe fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com
Fri Nov 20 12:03:02 UTC 2020


Dear Mateusz,

Proposal goes through different stages and I was proposing simpler driver=*
instead of mechanical_driver. Comments have been made about the possible
confusion with human drivers driving cars.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Pumping_proposal#Consider_drivers_as_pump_specific_devices
However, drivers aren't specific to pumps at all.

Current pump=* doesn't deal with pumps but with water wells and possible
motors/engines installed to get water. I was confused by this in the very
beginning.
pump=powered mixes electric motors and gasoline engines which are way
different. Situations may occur with emergency services coming with
gasoline to run an electric motor for instance.
The opportunity (not an obligation) to replace this particular value with
more detailed and useful information is the goal of the proposal.

One possible way to state the isn't manually operable is to use handle=no
without any mechanical_driver (waiting to be defined by knowledgeable
people)

All the best

François

Le ven. 20 nov. 2020 à 12:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :

> I am not a fan of deprecating
> pump=manual and replacing it with nearly impossible to remember and less
> clear
> mechanical_driver=manual
>
> Also, this proposal deprecates pump=powered without providing replacement
>
> Now to tag this info one is supposed to select value from
> reciprocating_solenoid
> combustion_engine
> electric_motor
> cylinder
> turbine
>
> and no way to tag equivalent of pump=powered is provided.
>
> Mapper may be uninterested in or unable to get info about technical detail,
> but they should be still able to tag info that pump is not manually
> operated.
>
> Nov 19, 2020, 20:05 by fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com:
>
> Hi all
>
> Tonight I'm pleased to announce the start of voting for the tagging
> proposal about pumps
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumping_proposal
>
> A lot of comments lead us to an interesting tagging for pumps devices,
> water wells and wind pumps. Thank you to anyone involved in this review.
> Some values are proposed to be deprecated as to classify pumps according
> to their technologies and capabilities.
>
> Several contributors tested the proposed tags in real conditions and no
> problem seems to remain.
>
> Feel free to give your opinion until December 3
>
> All the best
>
> François
>
>
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