[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - catholic

[Bert -Araali- Van Opstal]

You repaired it Guy, as a community we are grateful for that.
Be aware that you are free to use any tag you want, the community being 
grateful if you document it on the wiki.
When you do a test, with mass automated edits you should follow the Mass 
and organised editing guidelines, the community can help you then in the 
opinion if it's a smart thing to do, desirable and implementation and 
execution acceptable to prevent damage and insure quality.

Of course, proposing and going through the proposal process will make 
your initiative evaluated and adopted by a larger mapper and user audience.

That being said, you asked me before what I would suggest, I remain with 
my previous point of view, being the current denomination key is well 
defined and crafted, even on the wiki. Values are provided and 
described, both for less specific as very specific cases, even listing 
the churches which are in full communion on the wiki. Just the use of 
"catholic" as an umbrella or less specific denomination value could be 
improved maybe.
Introducing any other new key or subkey is just duplication of data, is 
probably not going to reduce inaccuracy in the denomination key, most 
likely introduce even more biased and inconsistent situations.
The current denomination key invites to use a single value, as specific 
as feasible for any mapper. Usage of that data, to f.i. receive only the 
churches in full communion, is hard to capture consistently in a single 
Key. Our wiki comes to the rescue here (provides links to Wikipedia). 
Ultimately one could consider using the wikidata or wikipedia keys to 
provide linking to more specific information and background for the 
denomination value. key:wikidata can also provide a selection key for 
data users and even renderers.

Greetings,

Bert Araali

On 11/08/2021 08:36, Guy Godfroy wrote:
> Yeah that was me, I not a really new mapper but I may do silly things sometimes.
>
> I wanted to apply the catholic=* tag as an experiment to a delimited parameter but :
>    * That was a silly thing to do without official existence of catholic=*
>    * That went out of my control and a lot more things were affected
>
> 11 août 2021 01:36:52 Yves via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org>:
>
>> Hello there,
>> It was an honnet mistake from a new mapper, which was diligently corrected by himself.
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/109391661
>> Now we're discussing the tagging here, be welcoming ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yves
>>
>>
>> Le 11 août 2021 00:49:55 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> 10 Aug 2021, 23:27 by dieterdreist at gmail.com:
>>>> and there are already almost 40k catholic=roman tags around
>>> It was an undicussed bot edit that seems to be already reverted
>>>
>>> See spike in https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/catholic#chronology
>>>
>>> See overpass query counter showing that in current Overpass database
>>> there is exactly 1 such tag. See https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1acu
>>>
>>> So either it is bot edit that just happened or will be reverted soon or
>>> it was reverted already.
>>>
>>> Before this discussion started catholic=* tag was basically not used.
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