[Tagging] Should pastures be tagged landuse=meadow or landuse=farmland?

[David Marchal]

I agree; that's how this tag is used in France, AFAIK. If the agricultural land is covered with grass, whether for hay and pasture, landuse=meadow is used. The distinction with meadow=* is rarely used. landuse=farmland is for cultures (cereals, potatoes…) but not for grasslands.

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Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 05:21:

> Meadows (areas of mostly grass and similar herbaceous plants, cut for hay) and pastures ( areas of grass and herbs, used for grazing by animals) are both tagged as landuse=meadow everywhere that I have mapped.
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> It is rare to use landuse=farmland for either.
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> - Joseph
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> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 7:34 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> A couple of weeks ago a [new wiki editor](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DerBauer) modified several pages in a way that changes the meaning of landuse=meadow and landuse=farmland.
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>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow
>> [Tag:landuse meadow](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow) ([diff](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dmeadow&type=revision&diff=2225909&oldid=2224216))
>> [Tag:landuse farmland](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland) ([diff](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmland&type=revision&diff=2225152&oldid=2224151))
>> [Tag:landuse farmyard](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard) ([diff](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmyard&type=revision&diff=2225157&oldid=1935881))
>> [Template:Map_Features:landuse](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:landuse) ([diff](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Alanduse&type=revision&diff=2225907&oldid=2210904))
>>
>> Previously these pages suggested that landuse=meadow is used for pastures and hay fields, landuse=farmland is used for tilled cropland, and that some mappers use landuse=farmland for all three. Some ambiguity there, but that was the gist of it. After the recent changes these pages now state that landuse=farmland should be used for tilled cropland and pastures, while landuse=meadow should only be used for grassy areas which are not regularly grazed.
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>> Is this change in meaning appropriate or not?
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>> The description for landuse=meadow was changed from this:
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>>> An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing
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>> to this:
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>>> A meadow - land primarily vegetated by grass and non-woody plants, but which is not regularly grazed.
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>> The description for landuse=farmland was changed from this:
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>>> Area of farmland used mainly for tillage (annual crops)
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>> to this:
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>>> Area of land operated by a farm whether that is pastoral (livestock) or arable (tillage). To be used in conjunction with crop=* to define the crop (grass, wheat etc) grown on that land. Separate to tag landuse=farmyard
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>> Another section of the landuse=farmland page was change from this:
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>>> This tag is sometimes used for tagging every agricultural area (except farmyards). However we also have separate tags for: meadows and pastures landuse=meadow, fruit orchards landuse=orchard, and vineyards landuse=vineyard, so many mappers prefer to use landuse=farmland for cropland only
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>> to this:
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>>> This tag is to be used for tagging every agricultural area (except farmyards). There are also separate tags for: fruit orchards landuse=orchard, and vineyards landuse=vineyard.
>>> Meadows have an often confusing separate tag landuse=meadow attributed to them. An agricultural meadow is a separate distinction under the farmland parent category where the ground cover is grass but is not regularly grazed by livestock.
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