[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse bush

[Warin]

On 4/2/21 5:27 am, Vincent van Duijnhoven via Tagging wrote:
> I understand that compared with e.g. landuse=residential or 
> industrial, there is a notable difference. On the other hand, 
> landuse=bush would in my opinion perfectly fit with the other landuse 
> tags like village_green, grass, forest and flowerbed. Especially if 
> the bushes are maintained by the government, isn't it then a landuse?


Not in my view. Landuse : "used to describe the primary use of land by 
humans". From the OSM wiki.

You describe you 'landuse bush' as 'used for decorative purposes'. So 
the landuse is decorative - much like a flower bead!

You should note that flowerbed is not approved. I would also object to 
this tag too.

The landuse=forest has many different interpretations, unfortunately. 
There are those who use natural=wood to map the presence of trees and 
use landuse=forest to map areas used to produce tree produce for human use.


I would think natural=bush would be a better key to start with as you 
want to map the presence of a plant, not the human use of the feature?


>
> About barrier=hedge, I think a clear distinction is its function. Is 
> it purely a barrier or is the main function decorative. For example, 
> the first and last of the four example images are decorative in my 
> opinion. Yes, the limit movement but they are added for decorative 
> purpose. A river and a house are technically also barrier when 
> navigating but they also have their own tag.
>
> Village_green is a harder one. Atleast in the Netherlands, it is 
> almost not used only sometimes at the very center of a village. I 
> can't really comment on that one.
>
> Met vriendelijke groet/ Kind regards,
>
> Vincent van Duijnhoven
>
>
>
> 3 feb. 2021 18:29 van stefan.tauner at gmx.at:
>
>     On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 18:01:20 +0100 (CET)
>     Vincent van Duijnhoven via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse=bush
>
>         Definition: An area of bushes on cultivated land and in the
>         built environment, often used for decorative purposes or to
>         fill space and where barrier=hedge does not apply.
>
>
>     I do see the need to tag these for (relatively speaking) micromapping.
>     However, I have a problem with how landuse is completely broken (the
>     old landcover vs. landuse debate). This proposal will lead to further
>     fragmentation of more general landuses, e.g., residential. Since there
>     are so many other problems regarding landuse anyway I wouldn't
>     downvote
>     it because of that though (i.e., every hope is lost anyway ;)
>
>     One thing that I think should be improved is the distinction to
>     barrier=hedge. Even the smaller ones are definitely blocking or
>     severely constraining some modes of use where landuse=grass for
>     example
>     would be less of a problem, e.g., bicycle, wheelchair, or stroller.
>     From a mapper's perspective the question arises when is a string of
>     bushes a barrier=hedge and when it is not? Also, can it be both?
>
>     The other one is village_green. I have never understood the existence
>     of this peculiarity when on the other side there is useful tag for
>     basically the same thing outside the center of some village. In any
>     case there should be some guidance/distinction made there too. How
>     do I
>     map an area of bushes within a village_green for example.
>
>     -- 
>     Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner
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