[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse bush

[Joseph Eisenberg]

This use of “landscaping” is mostly US English and may not be understood in
most of the world, where British English is standard.

It also lacks precision. Is a decorative garden “landscaping?” How about a
vegetable garden? Just and area of grass?

We currently have tags for leisure=garden and landuse=grass and
landuse=flowerbed, so I recommend focusing on what is missing: a tag for an
area of cultivated decorative shrubs (aka bushes), which is not a hedge.

The term “shrubs” as the tag value will be the clearest option for
International users, since “bush” has very different meanings in Australia,
Africa etc.

— Joseph Eisenberg

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 8:37 AM Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This might be a language difference, but in US English "landscaping" is
> also used as a noun to describe an area of human-created plants or other
> natural objects that are groomed for aesthetic or decorative purposes.  It
> includes lawns, cultivated beds of bushes and shrubs,  etc.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 11:30 AM Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think landscaping is an activity, a craft or an art maybe. Not a kind
>> of object or covering. I think it is better to map what you see and can be
>> clearly verified by anyone looking at it, not what you know or suspect has
>> happened to make it look like that.
>>
>> Peter Elderson
>>
>>
>> Op do 4 feb. 2021 om 13:42 schreef Vincent van Duijnhoven via Tagging <
>> tagging at openstreetmap.org>:
>>
>>> From all discussion, I get the feeling that both a new landuse or
>>> natural value are not going to succeed because it is controversial to add a
>>> new value. Some will, I think correct, oppose because it would fragment the
>>> vegetation tagging even further
>>>
>>> I had a discussion with ZeLonewolf on Discord. Would there be support
>>> for a tag like landscaping=*? Possible values could be shrubbery | grass |
>>> trees/forest | flowerbed etc. For example on the following image:
>>> https://i.imgur.com/w4gAW6D.png 1 would be tagged as natural=wood (
>>> leave the discussion about how to tag the forest for now), 2 as
>>> landscaping=grass, and 3 as natural=tree. If 2 would have been low
>>> shrubbery for decoration, landscaping=shrubbery would be sufficient.
>>>
>>> This tagging scheme would still honor for example natural=scrub from
>>> scrublands and natural=shrub from individual shrubs. Also, the landuse tag
>>> would be left untouched and still available to only tag real landuse (like
>>> residential and industrial).
>>>
>>> Additionally, landscaping=* would allow to also properly tag the content
>>> of a leisure=garden and leisure=park in more detail.
>>>
>>> Is this a workable solution?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
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