[Tagging] Evaporation pond = berm vs embankment

Brian M. Sperlongano zelonewolf at gmail.com
Tue Feb 16 13:35:53 UTC 2021


Very well, given the noted objection, I will restart the vote.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 8:32 AM Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <
bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian, I appreciate your good intentions but changing the proposal due to
> errors is against our proposal and voting procedures. A proposal should not
> be changed during voting. Feel free to comment on a vote and point out that
> errors will be corrected.  Either by re-voting or an option is to clearly
> state in the comment that these "minor" errors (not the main concept or
> intentions) are confirmed by you and changed when the proposal is converted
> in a final wiki page. Voters can then change their vote if they wish.
>
> I advise that if you describe auxiliary or attribution tags try to be as
> complete as possible without promoting one to the other based on current
> user statistics. This expresses a personal preference and obstructs the use
> of new approved keys to get used. I refer to dyke, which is less commonly
> used then embankment but in the tech world the correct term.  Embankment is
> correct but more commonly used in different applications.
> Also I advise not to rephrase, or change the meaning or scope of existing
> values.  I am pointing at your rephrasing that hazard=contamination as to
> be used to causing a hazard to human health.  Sorry that is not correct,
> not in the context as it was defined in OSM, neither globally.  Just copy
> or refer to the existing descriptions.
>
> So please comment on the votes but don't change the proposal now, other
> voters can consider the opposing vote comments and the vote as "not viable"
> and undermine the voters individual opinion or credibility in the community.
>
> Greetings, Bert Araali
> On 16/02/2021 15:12, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> In the currently voting proposal[1] for evaporation ponds/basins,
> there is a list of suggested ancillary tagging for nearby tagging
> features.  The proposal (and indeed, the prior approved tailings pond
> proposal [2]) suggests the little-used tag barrier=berm instead of the
> established man_made=embankment.  This tagging suggestion was made, in
> error, by me when drafting the tailings pond proposal and carried
> forward into the evaporation pond proposal.
>
> Despite an RFC, and subsequent vote on tailings ponds, and an RFC and
> now vote on evaporation basins, this error was only spotted in the
> last few days (thanks Jeisenbe for the catch), and has been changed on
> the wiki page for man_made=tailings_pond.
>
> Since this tag is 100% ancillary to the actual tagging being proposed
> for approval/deprecation, I am updating the evaporation basin proposal
> to correct this error (substitute the embankment tag for the berm tag)
> without restarting the vote.
>
> However, if anyone objects to the change, please speak up, and I will
> restart the vote.
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evaporation_basin
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tailings_pond
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