[Tagging] Use of highway=track vs highway=service cemeteries, parks, allotment gardens, golf courses, and recreation areas

[Bert -Araali- Van Opstal]

Enthusiasm was meant in a positive and encouraging way, sorry if you see 
that as my personal observation and consider it as not particular 
helpful, it was not intended in that sense.

Neither should you however make conclusions from my personal opinions, 
and maybe misinterpretation and not good practice use of a certain 
tagging, that I consider it "wrong", I always try to express my personal 
opinion in the format of a question, so no, i didn't say anywhere that 
the definition of highway=track is wrong for Africa, neither do I see 
any need to change it at this time, but rather learn from other views 
and then see how it is applicable on a global scale.
In Africa we do have our local interpretations and we do more and more 
define them in local conventions.  As over the years the local support 
and use of these local guidelines grows we do and will make more global 
proposals or suggestions to improve the documentation, and we intend to 
do this all in good faith and focus on how the global documentation can 
be improved.
Unfortunately we are not their yet, besides the local pages we lack the 
resources for communication, the knowledge and in great extend we fear 
the intimidation by strong forces and local interest groups like they 
exist in the US and Europe.
In that context I express my personal opinions here, as a member of a 
local community, in no way I want you or the community to perceive my 
comments or opinions as being representative for the whole of Africa.

But I assume everyone does the same, and most of us do, in good faith 
and with focus of improving OSM, but that means, again in my personal 
opinion, that it's best practice to define local variants and opinions 
first on a local scale, and if feasible consult the global communities 
opinion and consent before we start making changes on globally used pages.
And that is not a move against you personally Brian, no against 
specifically the community in the US or in Europe, but a general form of 
respect for a free and open community.

Regards,

Bert Araali

On 27/02/2021 00:27, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:34 PM Bert -Araali- Van Opstal 
> <bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I am not contesting that you made a big effort to contact local
>     community pages, including the US, but that you were a bit too
>     enthusiastic to consider it as a general or more general (because
>     it could apply in USA and most of Europe).  Most of the world,
>     unfortunately, still not most of the OSM community is outside of
>     the US and Europe.
>
> Observations on my level of enthusiasm are not particularly helpful, 
> and I would ask that we assume good faith and focus on how 
> our documentation might be made better.
>
> What I'm hearing you say is "the current documentation on 
> highway=track is wrong for Africa".  To solve this -- is it your 
> position that the international equivalence page should be expanded to 
> include highway=track and the highway=track page be made more 
> generic?  I'd be interested to hear practical recommendations as to 
> how our documentation can properly account for usage in Africa and/or 
> invite you to directly contribute documentation to the wiki.  I note 
> that the international equivalence page doesn't discuss highway=track 
> (beyond a brief mention at the extreme bottom of the page).
>
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