[Tagging] Proposed feature - Voting - electricity

Lukas Richert lrichert at posteo.de
Fri Jan 1 13:17:50 UTC 2021

I would say common sense dictates that not having electricity for some 
minutes 2-3 times a year does not represent a significant probability 
that electricity will be unavailable.

As mentioned in the paper https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tej.2020.106828 
<https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tej.2020.106828>, it seems that there is no 
clear definition of what constitutes reliable electricity access. The 
definition proposed in the linked paper: an electricity source is 
reliable if "a maximum threshold of 12 outages in a typical year for 
SAIFI and 12 hours of power outage per year" is not exceeded. This seems 
reasonable and could be included to define what "significant" means in 
this case.

Further, it might be interesting to allow tagging of reliability in a 
tier system (i.e. intermittent=*?) as described by 
but I wouldn't include this in the current proposal.

- Lukas

> On 2021-01-01 12:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> sent from a phone
>>> On 1. Jan 2021, at 08:37, Joseph Eisenberg 
>>> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> When I lived in Sentani, in Indonesia, the power would go out for a 
>>> couple hours, every other day, at random times, but it was available 
>>> for at least 20 hours a day. Is that electricity=intermittent or 
>>> electricity=yes?
>> intermittent
>> From the perspective of an industrial country, what about having no 
>> electricity for some minutes, 2-3 times a year. Is this intermittent 
>> or yes?
> What objective criteria could be used here? Or are we going to take a 
> poll of the opinions of a few users and go with the majority of the 
> self-selecting participants like we usually do?
> We could use MTBF/MTTR for example, or availability as a percentage. 
> Of course it would be a guess, but at least the discussions would be 
> about facts (how many outages were there last year? how long did they 
> last?) and not about semantics of words like "intermittent".
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