[Tagging] Proposed feature - Voting - electricity

Lukas Richert lrichert at posteo.de
Sat Jan 2 14:30:02 UTC 2021

When a country completely switches to renewable energies in their grid, 
I would be overjoyed to completely delete the electricity:grid:origin 
tags in that region. Most countries are aiming for this to occur by 2050 
with many still falling short of that goal. OSM was created in 2004 - 
the map in 2050 would be three times as old as it is now. Surely the 
coming 30 years are significant enough to allow this to be mapped for 
that time. Perhaps we can then also deprecate gas/diesel fuel stations - 
we do still map then now however.

On 02/01/2021 14:51, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 13:34, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>     I a also dubious about usefulness of mapping this in OSM
> I have doubts it is going to be of other than short-term 
> significance.  Either we
> switch to renewable energy (plus nuclear) pretty much completely in the
> near future or we may soon not have a technological civilization at all
> (maybe nothing more than isolated remnants of humanity in the worst
> case, a Mad Max world).
> In any case, the costs of renewables have dropped to the point
> where they are already cheaper than fossil fuels, so the interests of
> capitalism coincide with enlightened self-interest. Fossil fuel plants
> are being decommissioned ahead of schedule.  There will still
> be gas turbines to pick up surges in load for many years to come,
> but they'll soon cease to be used for primary generation.
> As a way of trying to force governments to pass laws promoting
> renewable electricity, it's no longer really required. It is now
> nothing more than an advertising gimmick, and one with a
> relatively short life ahead of it.
> I doubt I'll be using the tag if we ever settle on it.  I also will
> not mourn if we never come up with a tag for it, because a
> few years from now it will just be clutter as everyone will
> be providing renewable electricity.  Then we'd need a tag
> for the few places supplying non-renewable electricity.
> -- 
> Paul
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