[Tagging] Tagging a Portuguese pavement

António Madeira antoniomadeira at gmx.com
Mon Jan 25 19:55:23 UTC 2021


Mind you those Prague sett pavements are indeed Portuguese pavements.
Portuguese pavements are found all over the world. You can find them all
over the old Portuguese empire, but also in Hong Kong, Shanghai,
Beijing, San Francisco, Honolulu, Prague, Spain, Brussels, Gibraltar, etc.
The hand carved and laid stones, with its characteristic patterns is a
well documented style, which was developed by the Romans and the Arabs
and was perfected and adopted in the XV century. It has a proper design,
geology and colour pattern and it's very easily recognized when you see it.
It's a ubiquitous feature in Portugal and Brazil, and it needs a tag to
differentiate it from other pavements, not only due to its artistic
features, but also for statistical data and mobility purposes.

A mosaic it's not a correct description, because it's a pavement, not a
touristic or artistic feature per se.



Às 14:35 de 25/01/2021, Stefan Tauner escreveu:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:25:19 -0300
> António Madeira <antoniomadeira at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there.
>>
>> What would be the best way to differentiate this very characteristic
>> type of sett?
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_pavement
>>
>> After some discussions in the Portuguese community, it was proposed the
>> following:
>> surface=sett
>> sett:style=portuguese
> Some food for thought:
>
> Some alternatives are sett=portuguese or sett:type=portuguese
>
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=sett%3Astyle#values
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sett#values
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sett%3Atype#values
>
> My opinion: TBH I don't really see how this is special. Mosaics in
> pedestrian areas and on sidewalks are not specific to Portugal or
> Portuguese culture, neither are the patterns unique as shown on WP [1].
> Compare them for example to Prague that is also famous for it
> pavements [2].
>
> How to distinguish them? If I show the average mapper (i.e. not a
> historic prof studying street design ;) a picture of these could
> they decide which is which? I definitely could not.
>
> If there is no clear, identifiable property that makes them
> sufficiently special then I think something more generic would be
> better, e.g. sett=mosaic or so?
> If national proud requires it then an additional mosaic=portuguese
> could solve that :)
>
> For the specific pattern there exists sett:pattern=* already. I did not
> follow/read the old discussion mentioned by Fernando though.
>
> 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_pavement#/media/File:MiguelRT1_(2).jpg
> 2: https://www.google.at/search?q=pavement+mosaic+prague&tbm=isch




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