[Tagging] Recycling of PET beverage bottles

Raphael dafadllyn at gmail.com
Sun May 23 19:51:56 UTC 2021


> I thought about recycling:pet_drink_bottles=* - as typically tags are lowercase and in this
> case PET and pet both look acceptable to me (but whitelisting this tag in Osmose and elsewhere
> may be preferable)

I've chosen recycling:PET_drink_bottles=* because of recycling:PET=*,
but in that case i'll change it to recycling:pet_drink_bottles=*. (The
probability of confusion with recycling places for animal water
bottles seems to be quite small because it's quite unlikely that they
exist. 😉)

On Sun, 23 May 2021 at 09:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
<tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> If there are places accepting solely PET drink bottles then we need tag for that.
>
> recycling:PET_drink_bottles=* seems fine for that and necessary if such thing
> xists
>
> I thought about recycling:pet_drink_bottles=* - as typically tags are lowercase and in this
> case PET and pet both look acceptable to me (but whitelisting this tag in Osmose and elsewhere
> may be preferable)
>
> > All recycling:PET_drink_bottles=* that i added or changed were then changed to recycling:plastic_botles=*
> > by another contributor (the one that recommended me to write to this list). He thinks that contributors are
> > not aware of the difference between plastic bottles and PET beverage bottles and that all occurrences of
> > recycling:plastic_botles=* need to be checked.
>
> 1) if place is accepting only PET beverage bottles, not all plastic bottles and not all PET bottles
> then doing this damages data and makes it less accurate.
>
> 2) Motivating it by fact that maybe in other places data is also inaccurate seems weird.
>
> What is their plan? Bilocate to all locations and magically resurvey all at once?
> Gradual resurvey/fixes is normal in OSM and blocking improvements because it
> is not improving everything at once is not viable.
>
> Maybe it is some translation issue?
>
>
> May 22, 2021, 23:05 by dafadllyn at gmail.com:
>
> Hello,
>
> another contributor recommended me to write to this list in order to make more people aware of a new tag – recycling:PET_drink_bottles=* – that i've started to use. [1]
>
> In Switzerland, the only plastic packaging that most recycling points accept are beverage bottles made of polyethylene terephtalate (PET/PETE). However, supermarkets usually also have a separate recycling container for bottles made of other plastics (polyethylene, polypropylene and others) as well as PET bottles that are not beverage bottles (e.g. detergent bottles).
>
> In my opinion, it is useful to know which recycling facilities only accept PET beverage bottles and with facilities also accept other plastic bottles (and which facilities accept PET in general or plastic in general). As there was only a tag for PET in general (which not only includes PET drinking bottles, but also non-beverage PET bottles, PET packaging as well as other materials made of PET) – recycling:PET – and a tag for plastic bottles in general – recycling:plastic_bottles – i asked on the wiki if a new tag should be used for PET beverage bottles. [2] One contributor answered me and recommended me to do so. I've then started to use the tag recycling:PET_drink_bottles=*, which i documented on the wiki. [3]
>
> All recycling:PET_drink_bottles=* that i added or changed were then changed to recycling:plastic_botles=* by another contributor (the one that recommended me to write to this list). He thinks that contributors are not aware of the difference between plastic bottles and PET beverage bottles and that all occurrences of recycling:plastic_botles=* need to be checked.
>
> In my opionion, contributors that are interested in recording recycling facilities are aware of these differences (as most people using these facilities are, too). Besides, the name of the tags are clear and they are clearly definied on the wiki.
>
> [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/105076089
> [2]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Drecycling#PET_beverage_bottles_only
> [3]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling
>
> Best regards,
>
> Raphael (dafadllyn)
>
>
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