[Tagging] Clinic that does admit inpatients
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Oct 25 09:05:05 UTC 2021
Oct 25, 2021, 08:56 by graemefitz1 at gmail.com:
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> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 09:16, Sebastian Gürtler <> sebastian.guertler at gmx.de> > wrote:
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>> Short answer before (after a lot of reading...): According to the wiki and the meaning of the english word "clinic": A "clinic" that admits inpatients is an "amenity=hospital; healthcare=hospital" ...
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>> Additionally there is the term "Tagesklinik", quite similar to English "day hospital" according to wikipedia, an institution which offers a typically 5/7 days continuous treatment but without staying there at night (e.g. psychiatric or psychosomatic treatment). In Germany it is formally a special form of inpatient treatment "teilstationäre Behandlung" with the legal status of normal inpatient treatment "vollstationäre Behandlung" for employed patients ...
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>> But one problem remains: what about the day hospitals. In the original English wiki page there is no mention of day hospitals but in the german "translation" it's written that "amenity=clinic" includes outpatient institutions AND day hospitals (which are in Germany formally inpatient institutions). The current tagging makes no differences between an "clinic" (german: "Ambulanz") and "day hospital" (german: "Tagesklinik") ...>>
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>> I looked at the tagging practice in Germany: Of 284 Objects with "Tagesklinik" in the name there were 103 with amenity=clinic and 25 with amenity=hospital; 88 with healthcare=clinic 14 with healthcare=hospital. Other taggings: health_facility=hospital/clinic. Of 78 Objects with a given speciality there are 52 of the psychiatric area, which are clearly "teilstationär" - closer to inpatient than to outpatient treatment, as a day hospital, not a "clinic".
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> I raised concerns about the overriding use of "hospital" some time ago, after looking at them & finding things like normal medical centres (including 1 dentist's office!), ambulance stations & even a vet all mapped as hospitals!
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> Yes, these are all clearly errors, but we also then have dental hospitals, day-surgery centres, psychiatric hospitals & such places as drug & alcohol addiction clinics all tagged as hospitals as well.
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> Yes, they are all healthcare facilities that treat patients, & some of them have in-patient facilities, but none of them are places that you can go to in search of emergency medical treatment.
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amenity=hospital is suitable also for places without emergency medical treatment
Specifically, for example psychiatric hospitals are also hospitals.
But dentist office, ambulance stations or vet are not and should be retagged.
> How about changing it so that "hospital" renders as a white H on a blue square background (similar to, but also different to, the helipad symbol of a white H on a blue circle); & then either using the existing white cross on red (or possibly even changing it to the internationally recognised white on green first aid symbol?) for Emergency?
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> Would that work?
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Note that specific rendering in specific map styles is out of scope of tagging mailing list.
and tagging emergency=yes/no is enough to provide tool for rendering that
if anyone desires
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