[Tagging] Clinic that does admit inpatients

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Oct 25 09:05:05 UTC 2021




Oct 25, 2021, 08:56 by graemefitz1 at gmail.com:

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> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 09:16, Sebastian Gürtler <> sebastian.guertler at gmx.de> > wrote:
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>> Short answer before (after a lot of reading...): According to the      wiki and the meaning of the english word "clinic": A "clinic" that      admits inpatients is an "amenity=hospital; healthcare=hospital" ...
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>> Additionally        there is the term "Tagesklinik", quite similar to English "day        hospital" according to wikipedia, an institution which offers a        typically 5/7 days continuous treatment but without staying        there at night (e.g. psychiatric or psychosomatic treatment). In        Germany it is formally a special form of inpatient treatment        "teilstationäre Behandlung" with the legal status of normal        inpatient treatment "vollstationäre Behandlung" for employed        patients ...
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>> But one problem        remains: what about the day hospitals. In the original English        wiki page there is no mention of day hospitals but in the german        "translation" it's written that "amenity=clinic" includes        outpatient institutions AND day hospitals (which are in Germany        formally inpatient institutions). The current tagging makes no        differences between an "clinic" (german: "Ambulanz") and "day        hospital" (german: "Tagesklinik") ...>>  
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>> I        looked at the tagging practice in Germany: Of 284 Objects with        "Tagesklinik" in the name there were 103 with amenity=clinic and        25 with amenity=hospital; 88 with healthcare=clinic 14 with        healthcare=hospital.  Other taggings:        health_facility=hospital/clinic. Of 78 Objects with a given        speciality there are 52 of the psychiatric area, which are        clearly "teilstationär" - closer to inpatient than to outpatient        treatment, as a day hospital, not a "clinic".
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> I raised concerns about the overriding use of "hospital" some time ago, after looking at them & finding things like normal medical centres (including 1 dentist's office!), ambulance stations & even a vet all mapped as hospitals!
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> Yes, these are all clearly errors, but we also then have dental hospitals, day-surgery centres, psychiatric hospitals & such places as drug & alcohol addiction clinics all tagged as hospitals as well.
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> Yes, they are all healthcare facilities that treat patients, & some of them have in-patient facilities, but none of them are places that you can go to in search of emergency medical treatment.
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amenity=hospital is suitable also for places without emergency medical treatment

Specifically, for example psychiatric hospitals are also hospitals.

But dentist office, ambulance stations or vet are not and should be retagged.

> How about changing it so that "hospital" renders as a white H on a blue square background (similar to, but also different to, the helipad symbol of a white H on a blue circle); & then either using the existing white cross on red (or possibly even changing it to the internationally recognised white on green first aid symbol?) for Emergency?
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> Would that work?
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Note that specific rendering in specific map styles is out of scope of tagging mailing list.

and tagging emergency=yes/no is enough to provide tool for rendering that
if anyone desires

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