[Tagging] creameries

[Anne-Karoline Distel]

I hadn't checked out Ireland on OpenHistoricalMap before, it seems to be
empty apart from rivers. I usually come across creameries when I'm
working on adding buildings to OSM and check against the British War
Office map to see if there's anything of interest, house names,
ringforts etc. I'm not planning of changing my efficient and industrious
routine completely around and only map historical things. That cannot be
my priority, when we still have 3.5million buildings to map.

We have building=church where the church is not used as a place of
worship any longer, but as a residence, library or restaurant and that's
tagged and seems to be okay. Why not creameries?

Milk is not made in a factory, it comes from a cow. It might be bottled
in a factory, though. Unless it is non-dairy milk, but that's not what
I'm talking about here. From an international, not native English
speaker perspective, I would understand and support the preference for
butter_factory, but chances are that everyone in Ireland (and the UK) is
gonna tag them as "creamery" anyway, because that is what they are
called there and what's in the old maps and potentially the name of the
café it has been converted into or what's on the blue plaque outside it.

Anne

On 17/09/2021 11:02, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> The previous usage of buildings is something for OpenHistoricalMap.
> Many buildings were previously something else: pubs, warehouses, post
> offices, etc. IMHO the proposed tagging does not belong in OSM.
>
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, 23:49 Graeme Fitzpatrick, <graemefitz1 at gmail.com
> <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 03:39, Anne-Karoline Distel
>     <annekadistel at web.de <mailto:annekadistel at web.de>> wrote:
>
>         I'm thinking of creating a tag for historic creameries. I
>         don't know anything about modern ones, they could possibly
>         included, but the situation in Ireland in the past was that
>         farmers brought their milk to the local ceamery, it was
>         skimmed and the cream made into butter or cheese and the
>         farmers took the rest back home to feed to pigs or something.
>         I don't know all the technicalities, but those buildings were
>         purpose built, often still recognizable by their architecture,
>         mostly vacant now, but some are converted into cafés,
>         warehouses or other commercial uses apparently.
>
>     In Australia, they were often called a "Butter Factory", & there
>     are still a number of them still named & standing, but sadly, no
>     longer operating.
>
>         I'd favour building=industrial + historic=creamery plus start
>         and end_date whereever known, and of course the current use,
>         if it isn't vacant and/ or derelict.
>
>     I think that would be the way to go, except that ours would be
>     historic=butter_factory. Or would =milk_factory be a good
>     catch-all term?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Graeme
>
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