[Tagging] creameries
Yves
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Fri Sep 17 19:44:59 UTC 2021
Ann-Karoline,
Building=church is not used because it's a place of worship, but because the building have a church architecture.
Is there something really special about creamery buildings that they can be recognized easily as such?
Regards,
Yves
Le 17 septembre 2021 20:25:45 GMT+02:00, Anne-Karoline Distel <annekadistel at web.de> a écrit :
>I hadn't checked out Ireland on OpenHistoricalMap before, it seems to be
>empty apart from rivers. I usually come across creameries when I'm
>working on adding buildings to OSM and check against the British War
>Office map to see if there's anything of interest, house names,
>ringforts etc. I'm not planning of changing my efficient and industrious
>routine completely around and only map historical things. That cannot be
>my priority, when we still have 3.5million buildings to map.
>
>We have building=church where the church is not used as a place of
>worship any longer, but as a residence, library or restaurant and that's
>tagged and seems to be okay. Why not creameries?
>
>Milk is not made in a factory, it comes from a cow. It might be bottled
>in a factory, though. Unless it is non-dairy milk, but that's not what
>I'm talking about here. From an international, not native English
>speaker perspective, I would understand and support the preference for
>butter_factory, but chances are that everyone in Ireland (and the UK) is
>gonna tag them as "creamery" anyway, because that is what they are
>called there and what's in the old maps and potentially the name of the
>café it has been converted into or what's on the blue plaque outside it.
>
>Anne
>
>On 17/09/2021 11:02, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>> The previous usage of buildings is something for OpenHistoricalMap.
>> Many buildings were previously something else: pubs, warehouses, post
>> offices, etc. IMHO the proposed tagging does not belong in OSM.
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, 23:49 Graeme Fitzpatrick, <graemefitz1 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 03:39, Anne-Karoline Distel
>> <annekadistel at web.de <mailto:annekadistel at web.de>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of creating a tag for historic creameries. I
>> don't know anything about modern ones, they could possibly
>> included, but the situation in Ireland in the past was that
>> farmers brought their milk to the local ceamery, it was
>> skimmed and the cream made into butter or cheese and the
>> farmers took the rest back home to feed to pigs or something.
>> I don't know all the technicalities, but those buildings were
>> purpose built, often still recognizable by their architecture,
>> mostly vacant now, but some are converted into cafés,
>> warehouses or other commercial uses apparently.
>>
>> In Australia, they were often called a "Butter Factory", & there
>> are still a number of them still named & standing, but sadly, no
>> longer operating.
>>
>> I'd favour building=industrial + historic=creamery plus start
>> and end_date whereever known, and of course the current use,
>> if it isn't vacant and/ or derelict.
>>
>> I think that would be the way to go, except that ours would be
>> historic=butter_factory. Or would =milk_factory be a good
>> catch-all term?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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