[Tagging] RFC: remove alphanumeric code visible in infoboxes at OSM Wiki linking to Wikidata

Hufkratzer hufkratzer at gmail.com
Mon Apr 4 19:53:30 UTC 2022


On 04.04.2022 19:42, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 4/1/22 16:39, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
>> I propose to remove this link from displayed infoboxes as as confusing,
>> unnecessary and not worth using infobox space.
>
> I support the proposal. I don't care too much about there being a link 
> if someone took the time to create one, but the "there is no link 
> here, please create one" has always irked me, because this request for 
> mappers to do something has been created by a tiny minority of 
> Wikidata enthusiasts trying to push OSMers in their direction. It 
> creates the effort that there was some sort of consensus in OSM that 
> "there should be a link" when in fact no such consensus exists, and 
> the average mapper or wiki user does not benefit from OSM tags being 
> linked to Wikidata.
>
> I don't buy into Andy's talk of this proposal being "flawed". When 
> these links (and prompts to create new links) were first introduced 
> (with Andy's eager participation), nobody asked if we perhaps find a 
> flaw with them, they were just pushed out there.
>
> (And yes, for those late to the party, this is not about linking 
> individual OSM objects to individual Wikidata entries - this is about 
> an attempt to represent OSM's tagging structure in Wikidata. Something 
> that may well be the hobby of a few Wikidata enthusiasts, but not 
> something that should be pushed into the face of every wiki user!)
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>

I don't understand this post, because I think it is contradictory in 
itself. I agree with the arguments against the "there is no link here, 
please create one" part, but IIRC the proposal is not only to remove 
this part, but to remove everything that is currently visible about 
Wikidata in the infoboxes, regardless of whether there is a link or not. 
And I would prefer to leave the existing links visible, because many are 
helpful and no one is forced to look at them. Misleading links can 
easily be removed one by one.

To save space, it might be better to write.
"Wikidara: Q1234456" instead of.
"Wikidara
Q1234456"
(and to remove the "Search Wikidate").

And if that is still too much for some people, maybe it can be made 
possible to disable it completely on an individual basis somehow (an 
additional option in the account preferences or something).



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