[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Cash acceptance at PoS
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 11:12:39 UTC 2022
I expect cash is 'legal tender' the world over - otherwise why would the
governments be making it? (Apologizes to those places without their own
money - presumably they use someone else's money in lieu).
However that does not compel a business to accept cash. In Australia a
firm can put up signs to exclude cash payments and it is 'legal'.
Fortunately being 'cashless' is seldom the case, the vast majority
accept cash. In some areas I expect them not to take cards because the
internet speeds are slow and it is less then reliable, cash there is king.
Defaults take away a lot of data bloat, while storage is cheap these
days .. data transfer is not, particularly large bits of data. If all
default values were tagged on every thing in OSM I think the increase in
size would be large.
On 15/4/22 20:17, Thibault Molleman via Tagging wrote:
> Also, the ruling might differ from country to country. Here in
> Belgium, cash is a legitimate method of pay in shops BUT vending
> machines for example can be card only. So there's nuances everywhere.
> And let's be honest: tourists don't do enough research before their
> trip. If they can see it on something osm based, they'll know for certain.
>
> Cheers,
> Thibault
>
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 12:15, Thibault Molleman
> <thibaultmolleman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think for something like this it's justified though.
> "acceptance of cash is the default ASSUMPTION"
> if the shop has no tags, it's unknown.
> if it has the tag payment:cash=yes then you're certain.
> if it has the tag payment:cash=no then you're also certain.
>
> If something isn't tagged, openstreetmap can't know.
>
> Why would tagging that be a bad thing?
>
> This is different from not tagging a city name on every house in
> that city, because there the relation of the city can be used to
> determine it, software wise.
>
> cheers,
> Thibault
>
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 11:57, Frederik Ramm - frederik at
> remote.org <http://remote.org>
> <qygoefidlhmfkyqmhyllhlltnzfmaalakfukjfxphopxl at simplelogin.co> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> please note that in many regions the acceptance of cash is the
> default
> assumption. I would be VERY unhappy if "members of the cash
> community"
> started to tag every shop in my country with
> "payment:cash=yes" just for
> the shop to appear on someone's "cash accepted here" page, and
> I would
> likely revert such an edit if I found it to be an organised
> effort.
>
> On the other hand of course it makes sense to tag those shops
> that
> deviate from the national default and reject cash payments with
> "payment:cash=no".
>
> I welcome your interest in this matter (as I myself am wary of
> the
> decline of cash as a privacy-friendly payment method) but
> please do not
> make the same mistake that other enthusiasts sometimes make
> and build a
> simple website that then (because instead of working with
> sensible
> standard assumptions) claims that hundreds of thousands of
> shops in the
> country don't accept cash just because they don't have a
> payment:cash=yes.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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