[Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

[Peter Neale]

I my area (Milton Keynes, UK) there are numberous pairs of bollards, where one is fixed, but the other can be removed after unlocking a padlock, to which I understand the Fire Service have a universal key.
These bollards are used on shared Foot / Cycleways, where they join or cross roads and serve to prevent motor vehicles from driving on the Foot / Cycleway.  They can also be removed by maintenance workers operating with permission from the local Council  (I have tagged the access rights of the ways with "motor_vehicle=permit") 
As the bollards are only enforcing the access restrictions (and there must be thousands of them) I have not felt the need to map them, but if someone wanted to, I am not sure how they should be tagged to represent the "locked-but-can-be-opened-by-the-Fire-Service"  status.
More importantly, I am sure that there must be other barriers with similar locks, which Fire Services might want to see mapped and correctly tagged.
Regards,Peter
 Peter Neale 
t: 01908 309666 
m: 07968 341930
 

    On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 19:04:08 GMT, Marc_marc <marc_marc at mailo.com> wrote:  
 
 Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stadler at gmail.com:

>      1. As far as non-emergency routing, the "locked" tag should be ignored.

it is up to the person doing the routing to decide (and if I were him,
I would impose a penalty: getting out of the vehicle and opening
the barrier takes more time than going through a route of the
same distance without a barrier

>      2. A "locked=no" tag indicates that a legal access restriction is
>        not enforced by a lock and therefore could be overcome in case
>        of an emergency.

i agree

>      3. A "locked=yes" tag indicates that the legal access restriction
>        is enforced by a lock and therefore cannot be overcome in case
>        of an emergency.

legal or not, it's enforced

Le 21.02.23 à 15:34, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :

> That is better mapped by mapping path around barrier,  
> at least in my opinion.

maybe for a barrier=gate

but a barrier=lift_gate/swing_gate hat is less wide than the whole road
is not really a barrier + a path that goes around the barrier.
ditto if for a dual retractable barrier=bollard  blocking vehicles
but pedestrians and cyclists pass in the middle
ditto for a lcoked barrier=gate with a unlocked barrier=wicket_gate
part of it to still allow pedestrian access

Regards,
Marc



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