[Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

zur at posteo.de zur at posteo.de
Fri Feb 24 08:33:39 UTC 2023


For the physical ability to pass a locked gate I want to suggest a separate tag for*locked=yes*  gates.

Something like:*bypass=*foot/bike/horse/motor_vehicle/... (where each implies the prior categories, because this is about physical width/height and not legal distinction)

It could also be along the lines of*physical_access=*....

I am unsure about using the wordaccess  <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access>  in the tag here, because its wiki page states clearly:

> Access values describe *legal*  permissions/restrictions

Generally, in my utopian dreams, there would be*acess:legal*  and*access:physical*. But we have to deal with the fact that exists right now.

My proposal is to find a word that describes "the ability to physically use/pass/access a way/object/node" concisely and possibly one-worded.*bypass*  is only valid for gates,
it would be desirable to have a general tagging scheme for physical access despite legal conditions.


Ultimately,*locked *is a physical access tag, although not refined enough.

I think this is becoming a discussion about which tags to use to refine the*locked=yes*  tag.

It would be wise to address the issue of a missing general physical access tag. But if this is over the top, i suggest to go with*bypass.*


Other points:

- I approve the idea of imposing a 2 min delay for routing on gates with explicit*locked=no*  tag.

- The wiki page of gate should be updated to mention the use of locked in more detail. Currently it is only displayed in the useful combinations section.


As I am new here on OSM, please be patient with my utopian wish to change everything completely.

Best regards,

Yamso

Greg Troxel writes:

> So we need three properties:
>
>    legal right of access, perhaps only needed on ways
>
>    physical ability to pass a gate
>
>    is the gate locked, and if so which modes does that apply to
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