[talk-au] [OSM-talk] bulk loading towns/cities locations

Brent Easton b.easton at exemail.com.au
Wed Nov 21 06:12:19 GMT 2007


Hmm,

That's a good question. It should have been included. I tried to include all records with a designation of

 CITY, TOWN, VILLAGE, SUBURB, LOCALITY, URBAN PLACE, RURAL PLACE

so the LOCALITY record for Tura Beach should have gone in. I have a complete list of the 5724 places I added and Tura Beach ain't on it!

I used Excel and did a lot of manual cutting and pasting, and removing duplicates. Looks like a few places might have slipped through the cracks with an overzealous cut.

Regards,
Brent.

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On 21/11/2007 at 4:52 PM Paul  wrote:

>Note I did see this in the file which is why I'm curious it wasn't
>included
>ie Tura Beach
>
>On 21/11/2007 4:33 PM, Brent Easton wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> Bulk upload is complete.
>> 
>> There are bound to be places that are not on the file, so just add you
>need. 
>> 
>> There are also duplicates of existing places, I am cleaning up as I find
>them.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Brent.
>> 
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>> On 21/11/2007 at 4:16 PM Paul  wrote:
>> 
>>> Whats the state of the loading of towns, I found that Tura Beach wasn't
>>> loaded (around 
>>> Merimbula) , I've added in now, just curious if your doing it one
>>> area-at-a-time
>>>
>>> Thanks for your work so far.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 17/11/2007 7:28 AM, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the offer, but once I got going, it wasn't that much work.
>>> All names are in now accross all NSW. Sydney has already been
>re-rendered.
>>> Just needs a little cleanup here and there.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Brent.
>>>>
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>>>> On 15/11/2007 at 3:04 PM Michael Collinson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brent,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be happy to help out with Sydney as I guess most of the existing 
>>>>> place names were added by me.  I'm replying to you as well as the au 
>>>>> list as I'm not a member (I've absconded to Europe) and it may bounce.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 12:01 AM 11/15/2007, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you on the talk-au list? I am copying my reply over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have started uploading population centre data for NSW. I have 
>>>>>> tried as best as I can to remove any duplicates before uploading so 
>>>>>> as not to add to any existing towns, but I have probably missed a
>few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have done most of southern and western NSW and am starting on 
>>>>>> Northern NSW.  The specification of town size is a bit dodgy as you 
>>>>>> have seen and may need some adjustment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been uploading by Local Government Area (LGA). I have not 
>>>>>> touched the ,major cities yet, but I also have data for all suburbs 
>>>>>> of Canberra, Sydnet and Newcastle. This will more of a problem to 
>>>>>> merge. Who would like to help? I can provide the full data for a 
>>>>>> given LGA in an Excel spreadsheet that automatically generated a 
>>>>>> suitable .osm file for loading into JOSM, or I can just supply the 
>>>>>> final .osm file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know which LGA's you are interested in and I will send. Reply 
>>>>>> to the talk-au list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Brent.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/11/2007 at 8:34 AM Paul  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see a some towns/villages has been loaded for NSW Australia.. good
>>>>> job..
>>>>>>> now I guess we need to remove duplicates...
>>>>>>> ie remove either the imported marker or existing as I notice some 
>>>>> places
>>>>>>> are marked as
>>>>>>> cities when they are small towns or villages
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/11/2007 5:47 PM, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are thousands of towns not loaded in Australia!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The good news is that there is a free set of data available from
>the
>>>>>>> Geographical Names Board that specifies every named location in
>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>> and specifies a Lat and Lon.
>>>>>>>> The bad news is that the data is only recorded to the nearest
>minute
>>>>>>> (from memory) which means that each name can be up to about 1.8km
>from
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> actual location, and all location with 1.8km of another end up in
>the
>>>>> same
>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>> We can load this data up fairly easily. There is a script that was
>>>>> used
>>>>>>> to load the equivalent data from Ireland.
>>>>>>>> The question is how useful this is, given the (in)accuracy of the
>>>>> data.
>>>>>>> It depends on what the Australian Community think.
>>>>>>>> I can see some advantage to this (if the existing names in
>Australia
>>>>>>> where removed before the upload) to give a rough location of towns,
>>> but
>>>>>>> have always been hesitant because of the innacuracy. It also
>includes
>>>>>>> locations for all suburbs in cities, and these will just end up
>piled
>>> on
>>>>>>> top of each other .
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Brent.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On 4/11/2007 at 4:23 PM Paul  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there a feature to bulk load the location of 
>>>>> towns/villages/cities
>>>>>>>>> etc..? ie just the marker for its location (not the ways)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found that there maybe several towns not loaded into OSM for
>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>>>> , so would it be easier to load these placemakers into the system
>in
>>>>>>> Bulk?
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
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Brent Easton                       
Analyst/Programmer                               
University of Western Sydney                                   
Email: b.easton at uws.edu.au





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