[talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

[Andrew Davidson]

If you are going to bring in any more administrative boundaries can we 
please do them as a formal import. If there was one thing that I learnt 
from the experience of doing the NSW ones is that bringing them in 
manually is a massive PITA.

On 26/06/16 10:11, cleary wrote:
> Thanks to Simon and Andrew for your responses which I now understand.
> Can I now follow-on and request clarification about other data from
> data.gov.au - for example the sources listed in the wiki for
> Queensland Local Government Areas and QLD Suburb/Locality Boundaries
> which are CC-BY-4.0 but do not have restrictions such as the mailout
> condition in GNAF address data.  Is it safe for me to add data from
> these Queensland administrative boundary data sources?
> I'm sorry to be a nuisance about the legality of our sources but I
> struggle with some of the nuances and I don't want to create problems
> that need to be sorted out at a later date.
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016, at 01:09 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>
>> The simple answer is "NO", the G-NAF data is published under a
>> non-open custom licence and currently can not be used directly in OSM.
>>
>> Every communication we've had with the relevant authorities has
>> indicated that they are at this time not moving away from the
>> non-open licence. This may change in the future, but hasn't at this
>> point in time.
>>
>> Using it for QA etc. is likely possible, but given the low number of
>> addresses we have in Australia to start with is likely not going to
>> help a lot.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 25.06.2016 um 05:35 schrieb cleary:
>>> I'm sorry that I'm slow in picking up an old thread from about six
>>> months ago but I remain uncertain about the implications.
>>>
>>> As I understand the situation, the licence that accompanies the GNAF
>>> (address) data from data.gov.au is not itself adequate for OSM.
>>> However the data it is covered by the explicit permission to which
>>> Daniel O'Connor referred and which is clearly published in the OSM
>>> Wiki at
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission.
>>> Therefore it seems we are able to use the GNAF (address) data in OSM.
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I have misunderstood the issues in this discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015, at 08:51 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just had a quick look at the licence terms. While the license is
>>>> based on CC by 4.0 (which is own can of worms) it unluckily
>>>> contains a provision prohibiting specific use that makes the data
>>>> clearly (as in we will never, in no circumstances be able to adhere
>>>> to the terms) unusable for OSM and further means it does not meet
>>>> the definition herehttp://opendefinition.org/od/1.0/en/.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 07.12.2015 um 03:50 schrieb Daniel O'Connor:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Many of you may be interested in
>>>>> https://blog.data.gov.au/news-media/blog/geocoded-national-address-data-be-made-openly-available
>>>>>
>>>>> Provided the license is CC-BY-3.0 or better; we already have
>>>>> explicit permission to use said data:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you interested in what specific data this is, I'd
>>>>> encourage you to have a read of:
>>>>> https://www.psma.com.au/sites/default/files/g-naf_product_description.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Of interest to us:
>>>>>  * Address points with geocoding and full structured address
>>>>> information
>>>>>  * Authoritive street names for a given suburb, with geocoding
>>>>> (points though, not polylines)
>>>>>  * Authoritative suburb/locality points, geocoded - likely of
>>>>> better accuracy than ABS "Statistic Suburb" data.
>>>>>  * Data refreshed quarterly; sourced from local and state
>>>>> government (so emailing your council to submit a data correction
>>>>> from survey is plausible)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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