[talk-au] Help with licensing
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Fri Jan 19 08:47:35 UTC 2018
From Daniel Silk on the Slack chat for Australian mapping:
>I would just reply and reiterate that they do not need to provide the
data under a different license, but simply sign a waiver that clarifies
some minor license differences and grants explicit permission for use.
> Is there a list of government departments that have signed one of these waivers?
> I work for LINZ... ours is on the OSM wiki:
>You could also interpret "It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is
sufficient for use of our data." as permission.
On 19/01/18 15:38, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> > The Department will not provide the data under an Open Database
> license. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is sufficient for use
> of our data.
> Am I missing something, I didn't think we were asking anyone to
> relicense their data under the ODbL, just to accept our understanding
> of one clause (Section 3(a)(1)) and waive another (Section
> 2(a)(5)(B)). Are DNRM misunderstanding what we are requesting?
> The second line of the waiver says:
> > [Entity] waives Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC BY 4.0 license as to
> OpenStreetMap and its users with the understanding that the Open
> Database License 1.0 requires open access or parallel distribution of
> OpenStreetMap data.
> Section 2(a)(5)(B) says:
> > No downstream restrictions. You may not offer or impose any
> additional or different terms or conditions on, or apply any Effective
> Technological Measures to, the Licensed Material if doing so restricts
> exercise of the Licensed Rights by any recipient of the Licensed Material.
> Aren't we (OSMF) just asking the copyright owner to waive their rights
> to this clause to allow downstream users of the collective OSM data so
> that for example it could be put on a Bluray disc. Their data would
> still be CCBY licensed, and the OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and
> CCBY licensed data?
> /cc Simon Poole
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM Jonathon Rossi <jono at jonorossi.com
> <mailto:jono at jonorossi.com>> wrote:
> I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and was going to start a
> new thread on the mailing list about it today to work out how to
> get out of this stalemate after Andrew Davidson informed me last
> It appears Andrew Harvey just recently had great luck with
> Victoria DELWP signing the waiver and on a corporate letterhead.
> AndrewH was that luck and are there any insights that you could
> assist us with here that might help us convince QLD DNRM?
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Andrew Davidson
> <theswavu at gmail.com <mailto:theswavu at gmail.com>> wrote:
> It's a known problem with a difference of opinion between the
> Queensland Government and OSM as to licence compatibility. See
> this thread for example:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Satuim <95.5.radio at gmail.com
> <mailto:95.5.radio at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> I recently asked for permission to use a CC-BY 4.0 dataset
> but got rejected. The dataset I want to use is fairly
> important (boundaries for suburbs and counties for QLD).
> Here is the response I got:
> The Department will not provide the data under an Open
> Database license. It is our belief that a CC:BY
> licence is sufficient for use of our data.
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