[talk-au] tagging old railway stations - what is the agreed approach

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Oct 19 22:59:30 UTC 2019


On 19/10/19 20:44, Ewen Hill wrote:
> Thanks Warin,
>    I have been using a node or polygon for the railway station as 
> follows however it is raising a level 2 error in osmose...
>
> name=xxx
> historic:railway = station (or station_site)

I think osmose may be complaining that it is not an area?
If an area, then it may just be that historic:railway is not documented 
on the wiki.... so osmose objects.
>
> If the building can be traced, I would also add a polygon
> building=train_station
>
> There appears to be a lot of confusion (see 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railway_stations#Stations_and_sites_which_are_not_currently_in_operation ) 
> over
>
>   * historic:railway=station
>   * railway:historic=station
>   * disused=yes
>   * not tagging it at all with any railway tags
>

disused=yes is not good, it should be disused:*=*


I would be against railway:historic... for historic:railway.

The confusion is because people try to map different things:
some try to map things that are no longer there - don't map, use OHM!
some try to map things that are disused - disused:*=*
some try to map things that are re-purposed

The answers are many, and even where the item is the same thing the 
answers change from mapper to mapper and with time.
Example: disused=yes used to be the tagging method, now it is 
disused:*=*...


> I want to keep the information from appearing in current travel 
> options but available to explain how the township formed around a 
> particular location

Personally I don't usually use historic as I am not usually certain of 
the historic worth of the thing. So usually disused: abandoned: etc for me.

>
> Ewen
>
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 19:33, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 19/10/19 17:53, Ewen Hill wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi,
>     >    I am trying to get some clarity about tagging old railway
>     stations
>     > like
>     >
>     https://i1.wp.com/judithsalecich.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/The-former-Bogantungan-Railway-Station.jpg?ssl=1 that
>
>     > has not seen a train stop for a numbe of decades
>     >
>     >
>     > There appears to be a myriads of ways to tag this according to the
>     > Wiki. What is the best standardised approach (which I will add
>     to the ATG)
>
>
>     The building is still a building...map as a way with
>     building=train_station as it is recognisable as a train station?
>
>     It does appear to be now a museum... I'd map that as a separate node
>     with the relevant details.
>
>
>     It was a train station or halt.. Could be be one again? This
>     should be
>     an area that includes the building and local track.
>
>     disused:railway=halt/station or disused:public_transport=station
>
>     or abandoned:*=*
>
>     If no longer in existence then consider mapping it in OHM.
>
>     Nothing Oz specific about it?
>
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> -- 
> Warm Regards
>
> Ewen Hill
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