[talk-au] Are we allowed to use PTV datasets (CC 4.0)?

[Andrew Harvey]

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 23:29, Aaron Fang Shenhao <aaronshenhao2001 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is my first time using the mailing list.
>

Welcome!


> I’ve noticed that PTV’s (Public Transport Victoria) datasets (
> https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/) all fall
> under Creative Commons International 4.0, which requires explicit
> permission to be used according to OSM’s blog. I’ve looked at the wiki and
> can’t find any of these specific datasets in the list approved for use.
>

Graeme pointed to the catalogue on the wiki of waiver status. I missed PTV
when doing the initial round, so feel free to add this to the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.


> Has anyone asked for permission to use these datasets before? I downloaded
> the GTFS dataset for a programming project, and it seems amazing: we could
> add all the stops and connect all the routes for all modes of transport in
> VIC just from this dataset?
>

I haven't approached PTV about this, and since it's not listed on the wiki,
I'd say go ahead and put together the waiver letter and send it off. The
metadata records have a contact email you can use. If you do send off a
waiver request please update the status and date you sent it to the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, this really
helps the rest of the community see what's going on.

There'd still be a fair bit of manual work involved in an import to avoid
duplicates and to integrate with what's already in OSM, but with a solid
plan and engaging with this mailing list and local mappers with the plan
and execution, an import could be a good thing to do.

On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I see there is reference to
> https://www2.delwp.vic.gov.au/maps/spatial-data/victorian-spatial-data#Vicmap_Transport-11 being
> OK but that doesn't appear to be the same thing?
>

Unfortunately not, VicMap Transport only has airports, roads and railway
lines. The PTV data has bus stops and a few other datasets.
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