[talk-au] Fire Station Operators

[Warin]

Agreed as to non fire stations - control center is one, the other 
headquarters.

Headquarters would be an 'office' type function.

Control center looks, from imagery, to not only control but supply?

There is a fire & rescue station in 'town' that is mapped into OSM.

There are a number of rural fire stations around Narrabri .. some of 
them unmapped.
These show up very well on the LPI Base Map even when zoomed out a fair 
way.



On 9/1/20 8:12 am, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 22:40, Sebastian Spiess <mapping at consebt.de 
> <mailto:mapping at consebt.de>> wrote:
>
>     I've done a few. Two raised questions.
>
>     Narrabri - There are two fire ' services'  according to LPI map.
>     How to
>     tag them?
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336523
>
>
> Looks like there is a Fire Control Center there, I'd just tag that 
> building as office=government + operator + name, since they have more 
> of an office function.
>
>
>
>     and RAYMOND TERRACE Fire Station - This seems to be and old fire
>     station
>     as according to https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/news.php?news=608
>     a new one was built. I can't tell if the old one was closed down.
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79336870
>
>
> If you're not sure and street level imagery doesn't help, just mark it 
> as too hard and skip it. You can create a note so that someone with 
> local knowledge can help.
>
>
>
>
>     Am 2020-01-08 21:24, schrieb Andrew Harvey:
>     > If someone has carefully surveyed the name as signposted I leave
>     that
>     > intact. branch is not mandatory but helpful since consumers can
>     choose
>     > how they want to format the such as "Narooma", "Narooma RFS",
>     "Narooma
>     > Rural Fire Brigade", etc. especially when combined with
>     operator. The
>     > whole point was to be neutral on the exact name format and not
>     engage
>     > in a mass edit to reformat them to be the same, but instead respect
>     > names will look different based on signage.
>     >
>     > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
>     <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> I have used the LPI Base Map for both name and operator, see
>     >>
>     >> Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699) [operator fire & rescue]
>     >>
>     >> and
>     >>
>     >> Way: Narooma Rural Fire Service (761122698)
>     >>
>     >> I do not bother with the 'branch' as that is usually the leading
>     >> value in the name and probably the same as the areas administration
>     >> name too.
>     >>
>     >> The LPI Base Map also gives the area so it can be mapped as a way.
>     >>
>     >> On 08/01/20 16:13, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>     >>
>     >> No, just confirming details was all I was thinking about!
>     >>
>     >> Thanks
>     >>
>     >> Graeme
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Andrew Harvey
>     >> <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> It's normally considered okay to check a business website as a
>     >> reference and picking up their contact details, but to err on the
>     >> side of caution taking a whole database from fire.nsw.gov.au
>     <http://fire.nsw.gov.au> [1] and
>     >> mass importing is not advised.
>     >>
>     >> So I'd suggest not just copying everything from that website. For
>     >> the RFS operated fire stations normally the name will indicate
>     this,
>     >> or a quick look at google search results may also indicate,
>     >> sometimes it's visible on Mapillary based on the signage.
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 15:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick
>     >> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Just a thought?
>     >>
>     >> Are we allowed to use https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467
>     >> or not?
>     >>
>     >> I've thinking we would still need permission & waiver?
>     >>
>     >> Big question, I guess, is - are we commercial or not?
>     >>
>     >> Thanks
>     >>
>     >> Graeme
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Links:
>     > ------
>     > [1] http://fire.nsw.gov.au
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