[talk-au] Help with relation please

[Warin]

For HMAS Watson.
There is a clear fence at the south eastern site of the 'public path' 
near the cliff edge, that goes across the path and extends from the 
cliff edge for some distance, possibly to the manned car entry. It is 
clearly there to stop public access. It has no rsemblce to a gate at 
that point despite what is should on OSM.
I have deleted the tags of barrier=fence and  "note"="was outer for 
Sydnye Harbour National Park before LPI Admin Boundary data used."
and   "source:geometry"="NSW LPI Imagery" on way 95481474 as the way has 
been edited by a few since those tags were place on it - placing the 
fence across the access road .. where there is clearly NO FENCE. It 
remains as the 'boundary' for HMAS Waston.


While there is a fence line at the top of at least some of the cliff, 
the same is true along most of the public parks in that area.. probably 
to stop people fall over the edge.

I doubt very much that HMAS Watson allows general public access.



On 1/2/21 10:16 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> & most of it, you can actually see the Base perimeter fence / wall in 
> imagery at the top of the cliffs
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 21:34, Michael James <michael at techdrive.com.au 
> <mailto:michael at techdrive.com.au>Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     There is a public trail around the top of the cliffs the base is
>     certainly not up to the edge
>
>     Michael
>

The 'public trail' is to the south of the present HMAS Watson.

Take a look near   -33.8372424, 151.2819289, no sign of a path near the 
cliff .. just a road further west.


>
>
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>>
>     > Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2021 5:25 PM
>     > To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Help with relation please
>     >
>     > On 29/1/21 5:53 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>     > > Have been starting working through various military
>     establishments to
>     > > update their details according to the military=base proposal, &
>     > > looking at HMAS Watson on South Head, Sydney:
>     > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2250229#map=16/-
>     > 33.8377/151.281
>     > > 4
>     > >
>     > > The eastern edge of the Base has been drawn to match the
>     coastline,
>     > > along the outer line of the rocks at the bottom of the cliff,
>     but I
>     > > really think that it should be at the top of the cliff.
>     >
>     >
>     > Why do you think it should be on the top of the cliff?
>     >
>     > This is a naval establishment. They could view the sea shore as
>     a potential
>     > security risk and want control of it. They could also use the
>     cliff for training -
>     > repelling off it.
>     >
>     >
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